Aye, I heard about a VW Golf 5 costing around 55.000 EUR new in Denmark - same car in Netherlands or Germany being about 20.000 EUR. Pretty scary, I dare say.
Questions (I think I asked it before): is it normal to have some deposits like chewed gum (dark grey colour) right underneath the oil filler cap? If not (and I'm afraid not), would this indicate a severe problem? The car doesn't seem to suffer, I pushed it the other day to 180 km/h without complains and today I figured the fuel consumption has decreased by about 15% after changing the lambda sensor or whatever it's called - first good news in a while.
all kappa's behaving themselves?
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Karsten
Re: all kappa's behaving themselves?
55.000€ >>> Must be the Golf GTI then, because it ain't enough for a Golf R32 here in Denmark 
Maybe you already guessed it Adrian... back in 1999 it was roughly 67.200€ for a Kappa 20V turbo.
Price was half this when we bought it 3 and a half years back. At the time that was even extremely cheap for this car... probably about the price of a new Thesis 2,4 in most other countries haha...
Other scary prices could be 13.500€ for the cheapest new Fiat Panda 2007.
Oh maybe you got lucky with your lotteryticket and think that the Ferrari F430 is nice... well then you should better have won at least 400.000€... and that's before you start thinking about the Spider edition.
I know what your thinking... couldn't you buy a Pagani Zonda for that ammount in your country and still have a bunch of pocket money?
Perhaps it's about time to start a new topic string again
Maybe you already guessed it Adrian... back in 1999 it was roughly 67.200€ for a Kappa 20V turbo.
Price was half this when we bought it 3 and a half years back. At the time that was even extremely cheap for this car... probably about the price of a new Thesis 2,4 in most other countries haha...
Other scary prices could be 13.500€ for the cheapest new Fiat Panda 2007.
Oh maybe you got lucky with your lotteryticket and think that the Ferrari F430 is nice... well then you should better have won at least 400.000€... and that's before you start thinking about the Spider edition.
I know what your thinking... couldn't you buy a Pagani Zonda for that ammount in your country and still have a bunch of pocket money?
Perhaps it's about time to start a new topic string again
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Adrian
Re: all kappa's behaving themselves?
Christ! How much do you people earn to afford spending that money on a car? I mean, not you specifically, but Danes in general.
The salesman who sold me the K 2.0 told me that back in '97, this car used to cost about 30-35.000 EUR new in Czech Republic.
A used Thesis can be bought here for: 12.000 EUR (2003, JTD, 149k km), 13.000 EUR (2002, benzine, 120k km), 18.000 EUR (2003, JTD, 19k km).
The salesman who sold me the K 2.0 told me that back in '97, this car used to cost about 30-35.000 EUR new in Czech Republic.
A used Thesis can be bought here for: 12.000 EUR (2003, JTD, 149k km), 13.000 EUR (2002, benzine, 120k km), 18.000 EUR (2003, JTD, 19k km).
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Karsten
Re: all kappa's behaving themselves?
Very few people in Denmark buy a car in cash... unless it's used and cheaper or if people simply "downgrade" = if someone sells his older Peugeot 307 and buy a new 207.
I really like living in Denmark... just now when looking at pricetags for cars...
In generel you have to add more than +100% in taxes. Gagdets and equipment only makes taxes higher. Until last year there was even tax on ESP... taxes on something that makes driving more safe!?!?!? But luckily this has been cleared aswell as airbags and so on.
I really like living in Denmark... just now when looking at pricetags for cars...
In generel you have to add more than +100% in taxes. Gagdets and equipment only makes taxes higher. Until last year there was even tax on ESP... taxes on something that makes driving more safe!?!?!? But luckily this has been cleared aswell as airbags and so on.
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Adrian
Re: all kappa's behaving themselves?
I'm still missing the government's point in this. Where I was born (Romania), there is a new tax after entering EU, politically called "green tax" - apparent goal being "to prevent the country from being flooded by over-polluting used Western vehicles". However, the tax is much lower for buying a new car, even if, for example, the emissions on a Dacia Logan are bigger than on a two-year old Volkswagen (I don't know for sure, just an example). Now, thinking of the fact that the prime-minister is also the president of the "New cars importers' and makers' association", it all makes sense. 
I can see the goal in that tax - the prime-minister and his corporate buddies want to make some more money, by terminating the competition with the used cars importers. But I don't really get it in Denmark's case - taxing on emissions level or engine size is one thing, but taxing on gadgets is a totally different one. Please tell me you're not paying extra tax for leather upholstery or xenon headlamps.
I can see the goal in that tax - the prime-minister and his corporate buddies want to make some more money, by terminating the competition with the used cars importers. But I don't really get it in Denmark's case - taxing on emissions level or engine size is one thing, but taxing on gadgets is a totally different one. Please tell me you're not paying extra tax for leather upholstery or xenon headlamps. -
Bob
Re: all kappa's behaving themselves?
Hi Cris,
mine is behaving very well, but it is relatively young for a Kappa (coupe 3.0V6). It was built in 2000, registered in 2001 (Holland). I am second owner, bought it in may 2006, with 68000kms.
This week I will have the primary belt changed including exchange of the sparkplugs.
Price for this is between euro 1100 and 1300 euro (acc. different dealers) and that is including all rollers but excl. the sparkplugs, euro 36,- each.
Just came back from holiday in northern Spain, we drove almost 3000km and it did this without any effort. Just put 140km/h on the cruise control, only stopping for fuel or food.
Great car.
mine is behaving very well, but it is relatively young for a Kappa (coupe 3.0V6). It was built in 2000, registered in 2001 (Holland). I am second owner, bought it in may 2006, with 68000kms.
This week I will have the primary belt changed including exchange of the sparkplugs.
Price for this is between euro 1100 and 1300 euro (acc. different dealers) and that is including all rollers but excl. the sparkplugs, euro 36,- each.
Just came back from holiday in northern Spain, we drove almost 3000km and it did this without any effort. Just put 140km/h on the cruise control, only stopping for fuel or food.
Great car.
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Karsten
Re: all kappa's behaving themselves?
I don't really know about leather or xenon - you forgot to mention alcantara
Some dealers they find clever ways to save some money for people. I remember something about BMW who didn't fit the stereo (+ a few other things) until after the car had been sold. That meant that the costumer didn't have to pay extra tax for that.
I totally agree on the environmental part... it's crazy when so many older cars drive around just because most people can't afford a newer one. It's a fact that our old Opel Kadett (420.000km with same engine and gearbox) pollute so much more than our Kappa 20V Turbo. Of course the Kappa only runs 10km/l while the Kadett runs about 13km/l but still there is no catalytic converter.
But oh no the government stares blindly at fuel economy and sets a special Danish green tax that we have to pay every single year. This green tax depends on the weight of the car and how many km/l. Saddly Lancia have decided to write 9,4km/l with the 20V Turbo even though our car without much effort runs 10km/l. Being in the category of 9,4km/l = waving goodbye to about 650€ every year.
On top of that the average insurance policy on cars are of course bigger because the cars are worth more in Denmark because of the +++100 or more % tax on the car from new.
Pheeew... people have got to almost love their cars to pay for this
Some dealers they find clever ways to save some money for people. I remember something about BMW who didn't fit the stereo (+ a few other things) until after the car had been sold. That meant that the costumer didn't have to pay extra tax for that.
I totally agree on the environmental part... it's crazy when so many older cars drive around just because most people can't afford a newer one. It's a fact that our old Opel Kadett (420.000km with same engine and gearbox) pollute so much more than our Kappa 20V Turbo. Of course the Kappa only runs 10km/l while the Kadett runs about 13km/l but still there is no catalytic converter.
But oh no the government stares blindly at fuel economy and sets a special Danish green tax that we have to pay every single year. This green tax depends on the weight of the car and how many km/l. Saddly Lancia have decided to write 9,4km/l with the 20V Turbo even though our car without much effort runs 10km/l. Being in the category of 9,4km/l = waving goodbye to about 650€ every year.
On top of that the average insurance policy on cars are of course bigger because the cars are worth more in Denmark because of the +++100 or more % tax on the car from new.
Pheeew... people have got to almost love their cars to pay for this