Chassis: 818630004187
Engine: 818303064486
Mileage: 10800 kms (original)
Hi
I am having my S2 1.3S coupe head overhauled (white smoke / low compression on 1 / 2 (120/95 psi) Never overheated. No oil / coolant mixture.
The garage is unfamiliar with Fulvias!
I have a head gasket set.
As you can appreciate parts are expensive, so I am trying to save money!
ANSWERS
1) What other parts do I need?
If the inlet / outlet valves are ok,
2) Can I have them machined / re-seated
If the valve guides are ok:
3) Should I get new guides?
There is no leaded petrol here in the UK (I use E5)
4) Should I have the head converted to leaded fuel?
If the head is cracked,
5) Can it be re-stitched / welded?
6) Head torque pressure?
The head has never been off,
7) How much should the head be machined?
There is no timing chain noise / rattle.
8) Should i get a new timing chain?
9) Does the head cylinder need to be re-torqued after 1000 kms>
Any further advice would be most welcomed.
Thank you.
Advice: S2 head overhaul Fulvia coupe 1.3S
Re: Advice: S2 head overhaul Fulvia coupe 1.3S
Interesting questions. Remember that Lancia's were expensive cars. Technically very advanced. Even more so than Ferrari to name just one other car manufacturer but you can name plenty of other. The difference is that Lancia applied the technology to build safe and reliable business and family cars which take you anywhere at any time. The performance does not come from cubic inches but from very precise engineering.
Saving money is not a good motivation when working on a Lancia. You end up having to do it all over again so the cost is will always be higher. Leading should be the book with the Technical Data (Data Tecnici) and the workshop manual. Just make sure everything is within the specifications. Everything in the book is there for good reason.
Also in my experience it may not be a good idea to do only the head. All the time I tried that (way in the past) I always had to do the bottom part of the engine within 3 months.
If we at Casa Lancia get a car from a customer with an engine problem, we check the car completely and may advice the customer to have a sill repair, brake, steering and suspension overhaul before rebuilding the engine. I never drive an engine but I do drive Lancia's.
It is often said that Lancia's are Italian cars. I am more precise. Lancia's are Piemontese cars. The Piemontese are a bit introvert. They do excellent technical jobs. They don't talk too much.
Saving money is not a good motivation when working on a Lancia. You end up having to do it all over again so the cost is will always be higher. Leading should be the book with the Technical Data (Data Tecnici) and the workshop manual. Just make sure everything is within the specifications. Everything in the book is there for good reason.
Also in my experience it may not be a good idea to do only the head. All the time I tried that (way in the past) I always had to do the bottom part of the engine within 3 months.
If we at Casa Lancia get a car from a customer with an engine problem, we check the car completely and may advice the customer to have a sill repair, brake, steering and suspension overhaul before rebuilding the engine. I never drive an engine but I do drive Lancia's.
It is often said that Lancia's are Italian cars. I am more precise. Lancia's are Piemontese cars. The Piemontese are a bit introvert. They do excellent technical jobs. They don't talk too much.
Re: Advice: S2 head overhaul Fulvia coupe 1.3S
Hi Huib,
Thanks for the Lancia history but really, what would be helpful is if you could take the time to answer 1-9 of my questions!!
The bottom of my engine is excellent. Never any oil / coolant issues, just the very odd top up.,
Thank you
Thanks for the Lancia history but really, what would be helpful is if you could take the time to answer 1-9 of my questions!!
The bottom of my engine is excellent. Never any oil / coolant issues, just the very odd top up.,
Thank you
Re: Advice: S2 head overhaul Fulvia coupe 1.3S
Problem solved!
Re: Advice: S2 head overhaul Fulvia coupe 1.3S
Good to hear that. Can you tell us?
I was wondering how white smoke could lead to a head overhaul.
I was wondering how white smoke could lead to a head overhaul.
Re: Advice: S2 head overhaul Fulvia coupe 1.3S
Hi Huib
Well I'm not a mechanic but 2 Automobile road side assistance guys said they thought it was either a blown head gasket or, valves. They both checked the oil which was over the normal. I thought "better too much than too little"
Then when I brought it to my very experienced, elderly mechanic, he said the "white smoke / spluttering" was the result of too much oil. The compression is now 130 psi on all cylinders. I was mystified as prior to this problem because i rarely had to top up the oil. Mileage is only 108.000 kms. Mechanic said the engine runs fine now.
And to think that all i had to do was drain / fill up with fresh oil & filter!
Well I'm not a mechanic but 2 Automobile road side assistance guys said they thought it was either a blown head gasket or, valves. They both checked the oil which was over the normal. I thought "better too much than too little"
Then when I brought it to my very experienced, elderly mechanic, he said the "white smoke / spluttering" was the result of too much oil. The compression is now 130 psi on all cylinders. I was mystified as prior to this problem because i rarely had to top up the oil. Mileage is only 108.000 kms. Mechanic said the engine runs fine now.
And to think that all i had to do was drain / fill up with fresh oil & filter!
Re: Advice: S2 head overhaul Fulvia coupe 1.3S
Good to hear that.
The guys of the road side assistance are good. Always a pleasure to talk to them. I always learn from them too.
So what you need is the User Manual.
See https://viva-lancia.com/specials/cd/fulvia-cd.php
User Manual is called "Coupe & Sport Instruction Book Incl 1600 variants in English". It is on Fulvia_S2_2.
My earlier remark that it is wise to stick to the book (in your case the User Manual) is still valid. There is a catch. The attitude of the car has to be within specifications. The dipstick is in the corner of the engine. If the car is nose down or tail down the indication on the dipstick is not correct.
Try to live on the same planet as the thousands of people who designed, built and documented the car for you.
The guys of the road side assistance are good. Always a pleasure to talk to them. I always learn from them too.
So what you need is the User Manual.
See https://viva-lancia.com/specials/cd/fulvia-cd.php
User Manual is called "Coupe & Sport Instruction Book Incl 1600 variants in English". It is on Fulvia_S2_2.
My earlier remark that it is wise to stick to the book (in your case the User Manual) is still valid. There is a catch. The attitude of the car has to be within specifications. The dipstick is in the corner of the engine. If the car is nose down or tail down the indication on the dipstick is not correct.
Try to live on the same planet as the thousands of people who designed, built and documented the car for you.