Recently when driving at freeway I tried to accelerate my Kappa 2.0 Turbo 16V over 200kph......
But....
200 was maximum....
I know that according to the manual it must be capable of 235kph....still, I was upset
will anyone help me to pinpoint the problem?
p.s. Acceleration is still incredible untill something smoothes the car at 200kph....
Accelerating over 200kph with Kappa 2.0T-16V
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KM
Re: Accelerating over 200kph with Kappa 2.0T-16V
Hello Alex
If you look at some of the older posts in this forum (Kappa) there are others with a similar problem. I believe that string is called >... they talk about an "air measure device" that is faulty...
You should not be satisfied with "only" 200kph.
I have actually never driven my Kappa (20vTurbo) past 195kph or so, but that especially because the freeway in Denmark is so small and traffic would never allow these speeds. On summerholiday in Italy 2 summers back I thought I had a fair chance of trying to get past 200kph. Especially over 100 in 3rd gear acceleration seems extremely fast, but the fun stopped when some nutcase in a Vectra drove 150-160kph in the left lane and wouldn't fall right to let me overtake (and he drove with a little trailer behind the car... !!!)
If you look at some of the older posts in this forum (Kappa) there are others with a similar problem. I believe that string is called >... they talk about an "air measure device" that is faulty...
You should not be satisfied with "only" 200kph.
I have actually never driven my Kappa (20vTurbo) past 195kph or so, but that especially because the freeway in Denmark is so small and traffic would never allow these speeds. On summerholiday in Italy 2 summers back I thought I had a fair chance of trying to get past 200kph. Especially over 100 in 3rd gear acceleration seems extremely fast, but the fun stopped when some nutcase in a Vectra drove 150-160kph in the left lane and wouldn't fall right to let me overtake (and he drove with a little trailer behind the car... !!!)
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Duarte
Re: Accelerating over 200kph with Kappa 2.0T-16V
Hello,
I started the thread that KM is talking about.
I have a 99 2.0T 20v - 220HP, with a power loss of about 20HP.
I still haven't fixed the problem because I still don't know where the problem is. I have the confirmation of a problem because the power-test only showed around 200HP and the pointer goes to only 235 KM/h, where it should go to 250 KM/h ( 243 KM/h real ).
The "air measure device" mentioned on the referred thread, was never the problem, neither the turbo. They messed with these parts, because they just don't know more...
I still believe that, in my car case, there is one cylinder that is not capable of producing the power quote, due, probably, to the rings.
In your case, you have a 205HP engine that, they say that can reach 235 KM/h, which in the pointer should show about 240 KM/h ... but you can only drive it to about 200 KM/h. This indicates a problem.
Why don't you start with a power-test. Mine coasted about 75 Euros. If the results show a power loss, you can start doing other test, like a cylinder compression test.
Just don't trust too much in the guys that will deal with your car. Don't let them experiment ... "let's try change this and then will see ... bla, bla, bla".
They destroyed my car's turbo and intercooler and no one wanted to pay the repairs. It was the "driver's fault".
I started the thread that KM is talking about.
I have a 99 2.0T 20v - 220HP, with a power loss of about 20HP.
I still haven't fixed the problem because I still don't know where the problem is. I have the confirmation of a problem because the power-test only showed around 200HP and the pointer goes to only 235 KM/h, where it should go to 250 KM/h ( 243 KM/h real ).
The "air measure device" mentioned on the referred thread, was never the problem, neither the turbo. They messed with these parts, because they just don't know more...
I still believe that, in my car case, there is one cylinder that is not capable of producing the power quote, due, probably, to the rings.
In your case, you have a 205HP engine that, they say that can reach 235 KM/h, which in the pointer should show about 240 KM/h ... but you can only drive it to about 200 KM/h. This indicates a problem.
Why don't you start with a power-test. Mine coasted about 75 Euros. If the results show a power loss, you can start doing other test, like a cylinder compression test.
Just don't trust too much in the guys that will deal with your car. Don't let them experiment ... "let's try change this and then will see ... bla, bla, bla".
They destroyed my car's turbo and intercooler and no one wanted to pay the repairs. It was the "driver's fault".
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justin
Re: Accelerating over 200kph with Kappa 2.0T-16V
Try getting the thing serviced with new plugs and filters (air/fuel) etc.
There's no reason other than this to cause power loss such as yours.
My SW 20vt will clock well over 220kmh and I haven't exactly overdone the service schedule.
Having said that, it is chipped to about 250 hp/ps! (check GrahamL on http://www.fccuk.org/forum/ubbthreads.php)
There's no reason other than this to cause power loss such as yours.
My SW 20vt will clock well over 220kmh and I haven't exactly overdone the service schedule.
Having said that, it is chipped to about 250 hp/ps! (check GrahamL on http://www.fccuk.org/forum/ubbthreads.php)
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Julian H. Tice
Re: Accelerating over 200kph with Kappa 2.0T-16V
Just to add some more information to the frey:
I have a 97 Kappa (16v turbo) that is supposed to do a max speed of 235km/h. I have had no test done of the accuracy of the speedo so I can´t confirm the *real* speed but I have on one occasion taken it up to 220km/h. Besides this being a genuinely lunatic speed to be driving on the public road it was suprisingly stable - having done it however I am not sure I would really want to do it again.
Anyhow - I experienced smooth accelaration up to the point where I felt that I had proved what I wanted to see. My car is relatively low milage (< 50k km still) and I had it checked on the rolling road a couple of years ago by some specialists that I trust where it was rated at some 193 bhp max output - the tabled figure for this car should be 205bhp.
I have a 97 Kappa (16v turbo) that is supposed to do a max speed of 235km/h. I have had no test done of the accuracy of the speedo so I can´t confirm the *real* speed but I have on one occasion taken it up to 220km/h. Besides this being a genuinely lunatic speed to be driving on the public road it was suprisingly stable - having done it however I am not sure I would really want to do it again.
Anyhow - I experienced smooth accelaration up to the point where I felt that I had proved what I wanted to see. My car is relatively low milage (< 50k km still) and I had it checked on the rolling road a couple of years ago by some specialists that I trust where it was rated at some 193 bhp max output - the tabled figure for this car should be 205bhp.
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vas
Re: Accelerating over 200kph with Kappa 2.0T-16V
Hi,
I've experienced the same problem. I've changed air and fuel filters, sparks and engine oil and the air flow meter. I believe now is ok. But i'm not sure. Sometimes I have an indication of 'engine control system failure' on my info center and I don't know what the probelm is.
I faced also many problems with engineers who experimented on my car. Even central Lancia's garages do not know many about Kappa.Duarte wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> I started the thread that KM is talking about.
> I have a 99 2.0T 20v - 220HP, with a power loss of about 20HP.
> I still haven't fixed the problem because I still don't know
> where the problem is. I have the confirmation of a problem
> because the power-test only showed around 200HP and the
> pointer goes to only 235 KM/h, where it should go to 250 KM/h
> ( 243 KM/h real ).
>
> The "air measure device" mentioned on the referred thread,
> was never the problem, neither the turbo. They messed with
> these parts, because they just don't know more...
> I still believe that, in my car case, there is one cylinder
> that is not capable of producing the power quote, due,
> probably, to the rings.
>
> In your case, you have a 205HP engine that, they say that can
> reach 235 KM/h, which in the pointer should show about 240
> KM/h ... but you can only drive it to about 200 KM/h. This
> indicates a problem.
> Why don't you start with a power-test. Mine coasted about 75
> Euros. If the results show a power loss, you can start doing
> other test, like a cylinder compression test.
>
> Just don't trust too much in the guys that will deal with
> your car. Don't let them experiment ... "let's try change
> this and then will see ... bla, bla, bla".
>
> They destroyed my car's turbo and intercooler and no one
> wanted to pay the repairs. It was the "driver's fault".
I've experienced the same problem. I've changed air and fuel filters, sparks and engine oil and the air flow meter. I believe now is ok. But i'm not sure. Sometimes I have an indication of 'engine control system failure' on my info center and I don't know what the probelm is.
I faced also many problems with engineers who experimented on my car. Even central Lancia's garages do not know many about Kappa.Duarte wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> I started the thread that KM is talking about.
> I have a 99 2.0T 20v - 220HP, with a power loss of about 20HP.
> I still haven't fixed the problem because I still don't know
> where the problem is. I have the confirmation of a problem
> because the power-test only showed around 200HP and the
> pointer goes to only 235 KM/h, where it should go to 250 KM/h
> ( 243 KM/h real ).
>
> The "air measure device" mentioned on the referred thread,
> was never the problem, neither the turbo. They messed with
> these parts, because they just don't know more...
> I still believe that, in my car case, there is one cylinder
> that is not capable of producing the power quote, due,
> probably, to the rings.
>
> In your case, you have a 205HP engine that, they say that can
> reach 235 KM/h, which in the pointer should show about 240
> KM/h ... but you can only drive it to about 200 KM/h. This
> indicates a problem.
> Why don't you start with a power-test. Mine coasted about 75
> Euros. If the results show a power loss, you can start doing
> other test, like a cylinder compression test.
>
> Just don't trust too much in the guys that will deal with
> your car. Don't let them experiment ... "let's try change
> this and then will see ... bla, bla, bla".
>
> They destroyed my car's turbo and intercooler and no one
> wanted to pay the repairs. It was the "driver's fault".