Max Speed 2.0 T

[Duarte]

Hi all, I own a Lancia K 2.0t and i have this problem...i can't get the car higher then 200 km/h . I know that this car should reach about 240 km/h but. Lancia dealer told me that the motor is all fine and the computer can't find any problem. Does anyone have any ideias about this ? Thank you in adavance

[Rossi]

Hi..
Wich model do you have, do you have the one with the 16V "Thema" engine (205 bhp), ore do you have the one with 5 cylinders and 20V (220 bhp)? But the Kappa with anyone of these engines should reach a top speed much higher than 200, around 240-250 km/h. I dont know what the failure is, but it sounds strange. Good luck, I hope you will find the failure..

Ciao

Dottore Rossi..

[Duarte]

Thank you for your reply Rossi,

I have the 2.0t with 20V - 220 bhp. Recently i had my car in the dealer again and they still found any problem, but the fact is this: i can't take the car over 200 km/h and at that speed the accelerate pedal is only at midle course. Press it all the way down makes no diference at all. In normal driving i fell that this is not a 220bhp engine. It's not very diferent than my Dedra that only have 80 bhp. So... i guess i have a problem here that is going to take some time and some war with my dealer, until i have it solved...
Thank again.

[Harald]

Duarte --

there is clearly something wrong with your kC 2.0t - BIG time. Can´t understand how your dealer cannot find the problem. The 5 cyl. 220 bhp engine is such a wonderful engine that in terms of acceleration and top speed is still pretty much up to date. I take my kC to 250 km/h without much ado. Go to another dealer and get it fixed to enjoy the driving pleasure this car can give.

Greetings,

Harald

[Duarte]

Thank you for your support Harald,
I have taken the car to another Lancia/Fiat dealer and finally they found the problem. It has something to do with some kind of "air mesure device" (?) . They have replaced it by another from other K that they have there, just until the new one arrive. The car can reach 235 km/h now, and i'm hopping that with the new device, it will get to the "promisse" 250 km/h. I can tell you this: I will not rest until i get this underfull car 100%.
Does your car have open-roof ? If yes, does it make "air-noise" when driving above 120 km/h ? In my car, this is the only think i ear at 120 km/h. With my old Lancia Dedra, also with "open-roof", i did not had any noise from it...is this normal ? Lancia dealer says that it's normal in kappa.....i find it hard to believe...

Best regards,
Duarte

[albert]

i have a kappa 2.0 20v from 1995 and my car does not go faster dan 210km - 215 kph and in the specs on the internet it says that thats the max speed but reading your story i got confused. can you tell me what kind of kappa you got and from whitch year it is , maybe iff got the same problemen and i dont know it yet.

[Julian H. Tice]

If your car is a 2.0 20v from 1995 then it is the normally aspirated version, in which case the top speed is quoted at 205km/h. The turbocharged 2.0 20v was only available from 1998 (replacing the Lampredi 4 cyl turbocharged engine). The quoted top speed of this model is 243km/h

See http://lancia.free.fr/ancgamme/kappa/page3.html for technical and other specs.

Happy motoring and I am glad to hear that Duarte sorted the problem.

Julian

[Duarte]

Well, as Julian said, my car top speed is 243 km/h (in teory), actually it only gets to 230 km/h .. and if i discount the 5 km/h that it add to the real velocity, i get 225 km/h.
This is due to some king of problem that it still have.
I 've made a power test and it only shows 200 hp insted of the 220 hp that it should have.
A lot have happened since my last post. I think that the mecanic that have been handled my car is not very good and i guess that he have made some experiences with the car. Last time that he tried to get more power from the engine, turbo intercooler blow off and the turbo brock down. 1500 € of repairs and the warranty don't wont to pay... so, i guess i'm in a lot of throuble because i had to pay to get the car out from there and i still have a loss of power about 20 hp.
I'm very hungry with Fiat/Lancia dealers in portugal. I just cant find one with good mecanics and all i can get is more problems.
So, i'm still happy with the car, i still have 200 hp , it's fast and furious, it's a wonderfull car in many ways. Untill now and 1 year after i bought it, i have the cronical power problem... 1 electrical malfuncion (light etc ),... and the alarm is off because it's always singing whan i turn it on.
Aside the power problem, those are minor problems that all cars have.

[Duarte]

Hi,

I got a Nov 1998 kappa. 2.0t 20v. 220hp . top speed 243 km/h
I guess Julian said it all

[miguel monteiro]

Caro Duarte,

De facto é muito dificil encontrar um bom mecanico para decifrar os problemas de mecanicas tão elaboradas.
Pela minha experiência, posso afirmar-te que são motores fortes e que não dão problemas.
O teu lancia tem que atingir, de facto, os 245Kph/250Kph no ponteiro!!!
Vou sugerir-te que inspecciones todas as válvulas, que vão desde o bocal de enchimento de combustivel até ao depósito. Só devem funcionar num sentido!!! Se soprares em cada lado, só para um desses lados deve sair ar. Este é um teste básico mas que nunca falha.
Se uma dessas valvulas estiver danificada, muitos fenómenos acontecem. Por exemplo, o próprio depósito começa a ser sugado!!! Experimenta beber água de uma garrafa plástica e não deixes entrar ar, ela começa a "encaracolar", certo? Se este fenómeno estiver a acontecer no teu Lancia, começas a ter dificuldades por volta das 4000rpm. No máximo atinges as 5000rpms, i.e. +\- 205 kph.
Apartir daqui, a centralina começa a debitar informações erradas porque o caudal de gasolina não é suficiente para acompanhar a abertura da borboleta na admissão.
Este é um problema comum nestes carros, thema e kappa 4 ou 5 valvulas.
Tambêm te digo que normalmente a origem dos problemas, nestas máquinas, é sempre onde menos se espera e são sempre de fácil resolução.
Nunca desesperes, e tenta agir com a cabeça fria.
Ultima sugestão, verifica os pontos de massa do motor e tambêm a ligação de massa na bateria.

Espero que tudo se resolva,

Miguel Monteiro