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Peter
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I don't think this is right?

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The attached file is a picture of the disc that goes outside the copper washer, at the end of the stubby driveshaft, on an S2. (Whew that was a bit of a mouthful!)

I'm assuming that the worn ring is not a design feature. I don't remember seeing it when I had the other side apart a year or so back.

Needless to say, the objective here is to stop a transmission oil leak past the splines and out under the washer.

Thanks as usual,

Peter
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ncundy
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Re: I don't think this is right?

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There shouldn't be any relative movement between the shaft and the flange. This will be a combination of worn splines and loose bolts.

When you re-assemble the flange assembly (on the splines) get them really clean, degrease and use a gap filling assembly compound like Loctite 638 on the splines. And do the bolts up tight.

Look in the Solution Guide

http://www.loctite.co.uk/cps/rde/xchg/h ... E_HTML.htm
Huib
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Re: I don't think this is right?

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You started an earlier thread. See http://www.viva-lancia.com/lancia_fora/ ... 8#msg-8798

The solution offered by Andreas is imho the only good one. Remember to put silicone rubber grease on the O ring and use locktite on the M6 bolts.
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Re: I don't think this is right?

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i have found the drawing but i have it only in tif. format.( not possible to attach. will make a foto )
Huib
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Re: I don't think this is right?

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I have changed the settings. You can now upload tif files if not too large. Otherwise mail me the file and I will convert it.
racing
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Re: I don't think this is right?

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have done a foto

should be clear if not ask again

Andreas
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Peter
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Re: I don't think this is right?

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Huib Wrote:
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> You started an earlier thread. See
> http://www.viva-lancia.com/lancia_fora/read.php?10
> ,8798,8798#msg-8798

Thanks Huib, you have a good memory! But that previous thread was for the setup on the other side of the car, which I was able to make leak-free after annealing the copper washer, cleaning, and reassembly. But I couldn't remember whether the disc looked like that, and hence my question.

I do like Andreas' solution, and if I can't get this side to seal properly with a new copper washer I'll definitely try it. Fortunately it's not too difficult to get in there for a second try if needed.

Peter
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Re: I don't think this is right?

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It is indeed a strange wear pattern. The photo is not too clear. For a second I had the idea that someone had tried to make a groove for an O ring.

If there is no play on the splines, you will be all right with the copper washer. If there is any play the copper washer won't work.
Peter
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Re: I don't think this is right?

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Huib Wrote:
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> It is indeed a strange wear pattern. The photo is
> not too clear. For a second I had the idea that
> someone had tried to make a groove for an O ring.
>

Well, that's a thought.

There was no O-ring in place when I took it apart, but who knows what might have have been done in the last 40 years? Also, I don't understand how that pattern could have been created by wear ... there's no sign of any damage on the hub surface. (By "hub" I mean the part that slides over the splines and connects to the CV joint with 6 bolts.)

If it *is* a deliberate groove, then it's a pretty shoddy job!

Peter
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Re: I don't think this is right?

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It wasn´t a job. It is only bullshit

>:D<

Andreas
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