Penury prevented me from going to Turin.
I hope that some kind person will post a report!
Paul
Lancia's centenary celebrations
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HFil
Re: Lancia's centenary celebrations
Unfortunately can't speak english well but I think can speak better my photos of past saturday in Torino, really an incredible live museum of Lancias never seen before
www.fotohf.too.it
www.fotohf.too.it
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James
Re: Lancia's centenary celebrations
Hi--
I was in Torino for the entire week. In many ways it was a wonderful event, but if you are sitting at home thinking that you missed some wonderful Lancia-related indulgence, that isn't really the case. If I had the choice to make again, I might have skipped the 1,800 Euro week-long package, and simply have driven to Torino for the final celebrations on Saturday.
My reservations are not complaints, I went with the British club and the organziation was outstanding, the people were wonderful, etc. But I felt that the program, which was organzied by the Italian club, was very short on car-related events and consisted mostly of historical visits around Piedmonte. These were lovely, and had I been driving a Lancia instead of riding behind on a bus, perhaps it would have been even more lovely. But I went to Torino to celbrate the 100th anniversary of Lancia, and that sort of seemed to get a bit lost between all of the unrelated activities.
The wonderful "Soiree Lancia" on Friday night at the Biscaretti motor museum was initially magnificent, with a large selection of cars on display, including some rare prototypes and both the D24 and D50. The Italian Club put on a firework show on the banks of the river that we were all able to view from the balcony of the museum. But the joy of this "soiree" was perhaps temptered a bit by the fact that the Italian Club found it necessary to keep us in the auditorium past 1:30am with lengthy speeches and prize-giving. No one could leave because we had been bussed to the event. We arrived into our hotel rooms after 2am, and the morning program began at around 8am. I believe anyone who attended this event would second that this was a somewhat awkward situation as it stretched from 11 to 12 to 1 am, etc
Saturday was glorious: an police-escorted tour of the city for all of the Lancias (I rode in a Lambda), followed by a full day public display of more than 200 cars in the main square in Torino. It was the first time that we had seen all of the cars together for the entire week, and the first chance to really talk to and interact with everyone on the tour, as previously we had been broken into four groups centering around different hotels.
So this was all fun, my hotel was excellent, the food was excellent and the dining opportunities seemed to be never-ending. However, why the scheduled visit to the Pininfarina musem was canceled was not explained. And for all of Lancia's promises of involvement, they could not have been bothered to arrange some sort of tour of their own museum collection? You have 800 enthusiasts in your town celebrating the 100th anniversary of your brand and you can't polish up your own collection to show off to them?
In essence you could have gone to Italy on Thursday, filled two days with car-related activities, and come for the display on Saturday, and probably this would have been a more representative celebration of 100 years of Lancia than the week-long tour.
I was in Torino for the entire week. In many ways it was a wonderful event, but if you are sitting at home thinking that you missed some wonderful Lancia-related indulgence, that isn't really the case. If I had the choice to make again, I might have skipped the 1,800 Euro week-long package, and simply have driven to Torino for the final celebrations on Saturday.
My reservations are not complaints, I went with the British club and the organziation was outstanding, the people were wonderful, etc. But I felt that the program, which was organzied by the Italian club, was very short on car-related events and consisted mostly of historical visits around Piedmonte. These were lovely, and had I been driving a Lancia instead of riding behind on a bus, perhaps it would have been even more lovely. But I went to Torino to celbrate the 100th anniversary of Lancia, and that sort of seemed to get a bit lost between all of the unrelated activities.
The wonderful "Soiree Lancia" on Friday night at the Biscaretti motor museum was initially magnificent, with a large selection of cars on display, including some rare prototypes and both the D24 and D50. The Italian Club put on a firework show on the banks of the river that we were all able to view from the balcony of the museum. But the joy of this "soiree" was perhaps temptered a bit by the fact that the Italian Club found it necessary to keep us in the auditorium past 1:30am with lengthy speeches and prize-giving. No one could leave because we had been bussed to the event. We arrived into our hotel rooms after 2am, and the morning program began at around 8am. I believe anyone who attended this event would second that this was a somewhat awkward situation as it stretched from 11 to 12 to 1 am, etc
Saturday was glorious: an police-escorted tour of the city for all of the Lancias (I rode in a Lambda), followed by a full day public display of more than 200 cars in the main square in Torino. It was the first time that we had seen all of the cars together for the entire week, and the first chance to really talk to and interact with everyone on the tour, as previously we had been broken into four groups centering around different hotels.
So this was all fun, my hotel was excellent, the food was excellent and the dining opportunities seemed to be never-ending. However, why the scheduled visit to the Pininfarina musem was canceled was not explained. And for all of Lancia's promises of involvement, they could not have been bothered to arrange some sort of tour of their own museum collection? You have 800 enthusiasts in your town celebrating the 100th anniversary of your brand and you can't polish up your own collection to show off to them?
In essence you could have gone to Italy on Thursday, filled two days with car-related activities, and come for the display on Saturday, and probably this would have been a more representative celebration of 100 years of Lancia than the week-long tour.
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James
Re: Lancia's centenary celebrations
Hi--
I was in Torino for the entire week. In many ways it was a wonderful event, but if you are sitting at home thinking that you missed some wonderful Lancia-related indulgence, that isn't really the case. If I had the choice to make again, I might have skipped the 1,800 Euro week-long package, and simply have driven to Torino for the final celebrations on Saturday.
My reservations are not complaints, I went with the British club and the organziation was outstanding, the people were wonderful, etc. But I felt that the program, which was organzied by the Italian club, was very short on car-related events and consisted mostly of historical visits around Piedmonte. These were lovely, and had I been driving a Lancia instead of riding behind on a bus, perhaps it would have been even more lovely. But I went to Torino to celbrate the 100th anniversary of Lancia, and that sort of seemed to get a bit lost between all of the unrelated activities.
The wonderful "Soiree Lancia" on Friday night at the Biscaretti motor museum was initially magnificent, with a large selection of cars on display, including some rare prototypes and both the D24 and D50. The Italian Club put on a firework show on the banks of the river that we were all able to view from the balcony of the museum. But the joy of this "soiree" was perhaps temptered a bit by the fact that the Italian Club found it necessary to keep us in the auditorium past 1:30am with lengthy speeches and prize-giving. No one could leave because we had been bussed to the event. We arrived into our hotel rooms after 2am, and the morning program began at around 8am. I believe anyone who attended this event would second that this was a somewhat awkward situation as it stretched from 11 to 12 to 1 am, etc
Saturday was glorious: an police-escorted tour of the city for all of the Lancias (I rode in a Lambda), followed by a full day public display of more than 200 cars in the main square in Torino. It was the first time that we had seen all of the cars together for the entire week, and the first chance to really talk to and interact with everyone on the tour, as previously we had been broken into four groups centering around different hotels.
So this was all fun, my hotel was excellent, the food was excellent and the dining opportunities seemed to be never-ending. However, why the scheduled visit to the Pininfarina musem was canceled was not explained. And for all of Lancia's promises of involvement, they could not have been bothered to arrange some sort of tour of their own museum collection? You have 800 enthusiasts in your town celebrating the 100th anniversary of your brand and you can't polish up your own collection to show off to them?
In essence you could have gone to Italy on Thursday, filled two days with car-related activities, and come for the display on Saturday, and probably this would have been a more representative celebration of 100 years of Lancia than the week-long tour.
I was in Torino for the entire week. In many ways it was a wonderful event, but if you are sitting at home thinking that you missed some wonderful Lancia-related indulgence, that isn't really the case. If I had the choice to make again, I might have skipped the 1,800 Euro week-long package, and simply have driven to Torino for the final celebrations on Saturday.
My reservations are not complaints, I went with the British club and the organziation was outstanding, the people were wonderful, etc. But I felt that the program, which was organzied by the Italian club, was very short on car-related events and consisted mostly of historical visits around Piedmonte. These were lovely, and had I been driving a Lancia instead of riding behind on a bus, perhaps it would have been even more lovely. But I went to Torino to celbrate the 100th anniversary of Lancia, and that sort of seemed to get a bit lost between all of the unrelated activities.
The wonderful "Soiree Lancia" on Friday night at the Biscaretti motor museum was initially magnificent, with a large selection of cars on display, including some rare prototypes and both the D24 and D50. The Italian Club put on a firework show on the banks of the river that we were all able to view from the balcony of the museum. But the joy of this "soiree" was perhaps temptered a bit by the fact that the Italian Club found it necessary to keep us in the auditorium past 1:30am with lengthy speeches and prize-giving. No one could leave because we had been bussed to the event. We arrived into our hotel rooms after 2am, and the morning program began at around 8am. I believe anyone who attended this event would second that this was a somewhat awkward situation as it stretched from 11 to 12 to 1 am, etc
Saturday was glorious: an police-escorted tour of the city for all of the Lancias (I rode in a Lambda), followed by a full day public display of more than 200 cars in the main square in Torino. It was the first time that we had seen all of the cars together for the entire week, and the first chance to really talk to and interact with everyone on the tour, as previously we had been broken into four groups centering around different hotels.
So this was all fun, my hotel was excellent, the food was excellent and the dining opportunities seemed to be never-ending. However, why the scheduled visit to the Pininfarina musem was canceled was not explained. And for all of Lancia's promises of involvement, they could not have been bothered to arrange some sort of tour of their own museum collection? You have 800 enthusiasts in your town celebrating the 100th anniversary of your brand and you can't polish up your own collection to show off to them?
In essence you could have gone to Italy on Thursday, filled two days with car-related activities, and come for the display on Saturday, and probably this would have been a more representative celebration of 100 years of Lancia than the week-long tour.
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P. de R. Leclercq
Re: Lancia's centenary celebrations
Thanks James, an interesting critique.
Strangely, on Fulvia 40 we did get a visit to the factory collection, guided by a delightful chap whose name I regret to say, I have forgotten - but a lovely man.
Paul
Strangely, on Fulvia 40 we did get a visit to the factory collection, guided by a delightful chap whose name I regret to say, I have forgotten - but a lovely man.
Paul
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alan cooper
Re: Lancia's centenary celebrations
yes the Italians did rather get too involved in slapping each others backs and taking ages telling everyone how marvellous the lancia marque is, the organisation on the bigger picture was very good but they communicated smaller detail badly and didn't seem to appreciate people who turned up without a Lancia (got the impression that we were merely tolerated) and it was disappointing not to receive the nice expensive looking car badge (we paid the same money by the way...) because we arrived lancia-less. To be honest I felt that the Italian club maybe needs an injection of youth which it will never get whilst it rejects the majority of the 'Fiat-Lancias' (why does the historic register allow for deltas but not the equally worthy ,infact ground breaking in many ways, Beta) anyway a very good event but a bit too much packed in we took one 'day off' just to relax in Torino which was nice! A amusing aside was the Italian attutude to women and the action of ahving a male only trip to mirafiori, whilst the women were expected to take a shopping/café tour of Turin..............it nearly got to fighting when the poor tour assistants (who were only working to orders) tried to keep several women off the mirafiori bus!!!
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Simon
Re: Lancia's centenary celebrations
I also went on the trip, and to my amazement was picked for the display for the 50 best car with my Delta HPE HF, and managed to get 7th place in the end, 1 point ahead of Mark Blackburns lovely Hyena. It would have been nice to have worked out what the order of the top 10 was.
However, whilst waiting in the line up the first time round I was handed a business card from Maurizio Aliotti co-ordinator of the Lancia Classic Team who has a web site www.lancia-ardea.it which I have looked at and he has some 400 pictures from the Saturday meeting in the Plazzo San Carlos.
Regards
Simon
However, whilst waiting in the line up the first time round I was handed a business card from Maurizio Aliotti co-ordinator of the Lancia Classic Team who has a web site www.lancia-ardea.it which I have looked at and he has some 400 pictures from the Saturday meeting in the Plazzo San Carlos.
Regards
Simon
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Niels Jonassen
Re: Lancia's centenary celebrations
Yes, much time was spent looking at historical sites or listening to speeches. But, this was more or less what I expected. Lancia events in Italy have a definite cultural slant, and speeches which appear endless to most northwestern Europeans are an inevitable part of this sort of thing south of the Alps. Seen from an organizational point of view the huge programme ran smoothly - and we, too, took a day off in order to catch up with some sleep, and to look at more old buildings. The Saturday on the Piazza San Carlo was magnificent, but also the chance of meeting so many lancisti and looking at so many different Lancias for six full days was enjoyable.
Niels Jonassen, Humlebæk, Denmark
Niels Jonassen, Humlebæk, Denmark
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St Volumex
Re: Lancia's centenary celebrations
I too would have preferred a more car-orientated visit and less cultural acitivities, but I guess when one looks at Lancia's 100 year history, it should be seen in the context of the region as a whole which gave spawn to the Lancia genius?
I heard that the visit to Pininfarina was cancelled on account of 'Legionnaire's Disease' which had infected the airconditioning plant there (!?), although how we were supposed to cram that in too on the same day as other visits beats me...
As I understand it, the Museo Lancia whcih I visited in 1981 no longer exists, and its vehicles now form part of the Biscaretti collection?
Personally I also thought the factory could easily have laid on some test drives of the new Lancia models, and given us more information on the launch of the new Delta, rather than announcing it belatedly during the week.
Otherwise tops.
I heard that the visit to Pininfarina was cancelled on account of 'Legionnaire's Disease' which had infected the airconditioning plant there (!?), although how we were supposed to cram that in too on the same day as other visits beats me...
As I understand it, the Museo Lancia whcih I visited in 1981 no longer exists, and its vehicles now form part of the Biscaretti collection?
Personally I also thought the factory could easily have laid on some test drives of the new Lancia models, and given us more information on the launch of the new Delta, rather than announcing it belatedly during the week.
Otherwise tops.