1989 unmolested 1.6 GTi.e
Right then, I want to make it perform better
How can i improve:
1. Handling
2. BHP/Torque
Also, what are people's views on using high octane petrol? I've not looked into this too much but I caught a feature in a motoring programn recently where they tested several types and Shell optimax made quite a considerable difference to a Scooby.
Delta 1.6 GTi.e
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Leo
Re: Delta 1.6 GTi.e
Yeah use Shell Optimax that helps a lot - not!
I suggest that you think a bit more about this project. Lancia made the Delta GT faster by adding a turbocharger, then when they realised that any more horsepower needed all-wheel traction they made the "integrale" Delta. In the past (10 years ago!) people did all sorts of modifications to HF turbos and could make them faster (in a straight line, on a dry road) than an integrale but the car became un-manageable in normal use. To get any decent improvement over standard you will have to pay more than the cost of buying an HF Turbo. If you want ultimate Delta performance, buy an integrale.
Before doing anything, check the rear wheel arches of the car you have. Remove the end bolsters of the rear seats (one screw at the side then push downwards) and see how much rust there is.
In case you wonder where my knowledge comes from, I have owned 6 Deltas over the past 20 years and my every day driver is an 8V integrale. Been there, done that, bought the integrale.
Leo
I suggest that you think a bit more about this project. Lancia made the Delta GT faster by adding a turbocharger, then when they realised that any more horsepower needed all-wheel traction they made the "integrale" Delta. In the past (10 years ago!) people did all sorts of modifications to HF turbos and could make them faster (in a straight line, on a dry road) than an integrale but the car became un-manageable in normal use. To get any decent improvement over standard you will have to pay more than the cost of buying an HF Turbo. If you want ultimate Delta performance, buy an integrale.
Before doing anything, check the rear wheel arches of the car you have. Remove the end bolsters of the rear seats (one screw at the side then push downwards) and see how much rust there is.
In case you wonder where my knowledge comes from, I have owned 6 Deltas over the past 20 years and my every day driver is an 8V integrale. Been there, done that, bought the integrale.
Leo
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Bungle
Re: Delta 1.6 GTi.e
Hi Leo
Thanks for your reply
Im fully aware of the lancia history, I've owned several non turbo Delta's (1300, 1500) and various other lancia's. The only thing stopping me from buying an Integrale is the insurance cost (I am under 25 with convictions!) So im making the best of what I can before i'm 25
The Gti.e is suprisingly solid. Infact one of the best i've seen of that age, it's due for an MOT next month and i'm pretty sure all it will need is new tyres!
Does anyone have any idea of the existence of GTi.e's in the UK? as i know they were not very popular at all, I will have to rejoin the LMS, probably get a better idea.
Thanks
Thanks for your reply
Im fully aware of the lancia history, I've owned several non turbo Delta's (1300, 1500) and various other lancia's. The only thing stopping me from buying an Integrale is the insurance cost (I am under 25 with convictions!) So im making the best of what I can before i'm 25
The Gti.e is suprisingly solid. Infact one of the best i've seen of that age, it's due for an MOT next month and i'm pretty sure all it will need is new tyres!
Does anyone have any idea of the existence of GTi.e's in the UK? as i know they were not very popular at all, I will have to rejoin the LMS, probably get a better idea.
Thanks
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Leo
Re: Delta 1.6 GTi.e
OK, well the easiest route would be to install the 140bhp motor from an HFie. Then the insurance situation will be easy also just insure it as HFie. My nephew is your age and pays £350ish for his Delta turbo, although clean licence. You are right not many GTie cars in the UK, people who wanted performance bought the turbo(!)
Not many GT/GTie cars in the LMC.
I have been helping a freind to put together a GT for club level rallying. We improved the performance by re-building the engine with a 2000cc block from a Beta and fitting Dellorto carburettors. In your case you could use a 2000cc Beta block and get an ecu from a Dedra 2000ie to make it run. That would be an easy upgrade to 122 bhp and the engine would look standard from the outside
http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/leocapaldi/Project1 - Martini Stripes always help too.
Good luck, Leo
Not many GT/GTie cars in the LMC.
I have been helping a freind to put together a GT for club level rallying. We improved the performance by re-building the engine with a 2000cc block from a Beta and fitting Dellorto carburettors. In your case you could use a 2000cc Beta block and get an ecu from a Dedra 2000ie to make it run. That would be an easy upgrade to 122 bhp and the engine would look standard from the outside
http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/leocapaldi/Project1 - Martini Stripes always help too.
Good luck, Leo
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Zippy
Re: Delta 1.6 GTi.e
Insurance is a bit higher at £685 Leo!
High Octane Petrol can make a difference to Japanese cars because the fuel in Japan is of a higher octane than the rubbish we have here - so you are basically running the car on the fuel it was designed for.
They also have intelligent ECUs that can alter the valve timing and boost settings dependent on fuel quality.
Other cars to benefit include the mini cooper 'S' - which is also optimised for super unleaded fuel. The difference is not great on normally aspirated cars though - zero if the valve timing is not variable.
You need to reset the ECU when you switch over, so the engine learns to run on the new fuel, or you are wasting your money. On some Scoobies the ECU (ahem), allegedly, picks up that the fuel is of a higher octane and then increases the boost to give more power.
On the Lancia, with its fixed valve timing and ancient ECU I doubt you would get any difference - on the other hand the detergents in the fuel may clean the system out, giving you more of the performance..... that was there originally.
High Octane Petrol can make a difference to Japanese cars because the fuel in Japan is of a higher octane than the rubbish we have here - so you are basically running the car on the fuel it was designed for.
They also have intelligent ECUs that can alter the valve timing and boost settings dependent on fuel quality.
Other cars to benefit include the mini cooper 'S' - which is also optimised for super unleaded fuel. The difference is not great on normally aspirated cars though - zero if the valve timing is not variable.
You need to reset the ECU when you switch over, so the engine learns to run on the new fuel, or you are wasting your money. On some Scoobies the ECU (ahem), allegedly, picks up that the fuel is of a higher octane and then increases the boost to give more power.
On the Lancia, with its fixed valve timing and ancient ECU I doubt you would get any difference - on the other hand the detergents in the fuel may clean the system out, giving you more of the performance..... that was there originally.
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Leo
Re: Delta 1.6 GTi.e
Err... sorry, I got confused - he pays £685 to Direct Line. I think that I was thinking of the amount he had to pay when he switched from Y10 to Delta but that was not for a full year.
Leo
Leo
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