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if your lancia needs attention when you are on holiday in Vienna, www.auto.neverla.at seems to be a good address. I got this Info from a German Lancia Beta/Gamma Club member.

Vienna has good "short-brown" coffee too !

My HF S2 was originally sold in Austria and was restored in Vienna in the mid 1980s. Looking through the pile of bills it has accumulated over the years I see it had annual roadworthiness checks done at Helmut Neverla's garage in 1989 and 1990 plus various other bits of work. It would be interesting to drive it back there one day.

Does anyone know how many Austrian schillings there were to the Euro when Austria changed its currency? I have a receipt from Werginz Motorsport, also in Vienna, which might have been the sales receipt for my car when it was sold to the person who later brought it to the UK. It would be interesting to see if the figure in schillings (65,000) is what the car cost in 1987 or if it's something completely different.

John

1 thing I learned by living / working / traveling in Europa (except Greece, Malta etc...boo hoo...) for many pre-Euro years, is that it was impossible to calculate the value of any Europa currency in relation to any other Europa currency, not to mention other currencies !!!
By the time a calculation was done, it changed, perhaps several time.
& the banks took a hefty % of any transfers, further complicating matters.
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Just remembering the nightmare of doing international trade & calculating the value of (for example) Yen into $, then $ into Pounds - to buy a RR for a Japanese business person hiding $ in a bank in Luxembourg, would cause me to suffer flashbacks of pre-Euro currency horrors.

Considering that the Euro came about in 1999 & your Fulvia was in Austria in 1989. who knows what value the Shilling had on a particular day, week, month vs. any other currency that was 'overvalued / undervalued at that time. .
Thus, my reply is: No Body Knows Nothin,

However, if we go back to the late 70's & thru the 80's, almost no "now considered to be rare, precious, beautiful" LITTLE (emphasis on LITTLE) automobile was worth much in Europe:

I know that many used Lancia, Alfa, Fiat sporty & otherwise cars were not in demand anywhere & were being given away at prices similar to used VW Beetles.

My Beta 1.3 'no-features' Coupe was unsellable in Germany & was already a new-6-year old car when I bought it from the "direct-from-Italy via Switzerland importing Dealer"...for the price of a used 6 year old Citroen 2CV. The Southern German dealer told me (in 1988) that it was so cheap to buy Ital cars via Swiss dealers vs buying Ital cars viaFiat Germany, that there no risk in buying any model. & that it was t the only way to get Italian cars that were not officially offered in Germany; mostly Sports-Cars.

However, no one wanted a plain-jane 1.3 Beta...at least until I came in door.

In the late 70's /& throughout the 80's lovely, hardly-used Alfa Montreals were selling in Italy, Aust, Swiss, Germany & probably elsewhere, for less than money than a new "bare bones" 60 HP VW Golf.
Then the prices fell.

Another story, but I'll tell it here anyway:
I was once "given" a superb Montreal for $600. The US soldier who bought it new & drove it in Italy & then in Germany couldn't find anyone willing to buy it; so I was given an early Christmas present
He bought a Porsche 911S f which he could take back to the USA (after some easy mod's). Montreals were not legally USA modifiable.
It went shortly thereafter to a dealer in Miami, who didn't attempt to import it into the USA. He had it further-shipped to the American Virgin Islands directly from the Port of Miami. He had a few #'s swapped with a rusted-out old Alfa & the Montreal 100% became a ( not accurate, but close) 1963 Alfa Gulia Sprint.
It gained Florida license-plates, was ferried to the USA & driven down the ramp...home-free !! He told me that there was no customs control between the Contential USA & American-Territories,
I saw the Montreal in his home-garage some month later, so I can attest to the accuracy of this story,
He proceeded to get orders for Montreals. I found them & shipped them ... without (me) breaking any laws!!! I was always in a trance driving them. A Dream to Drive on the open-Highway, at mid-speeds.

Funny thing...I described this "feeling of elation...man & machine being as one....lost in time & space" to a lovely women I was seeing at the time (she asked me, so I told her). Thus ended a relationship...she told me I was 'too-shallow'. She had no car & no drivers license...so how could she understand ? Alas...

Alfa Sud Sprint - "pretty shabby cars, even new - in their own right" (my opinion) - were usually semi-falling apart after 1 year of use. They were unsellable as used-cars; thus I ended up having a few to drive - given to me by Alfa dealer friends, so they could save the hassle & cost of scrapping them.

I loved driving any model Alfa Sud, but especially the Coupe. I admit that I drove them like no car should be driven ... in the mountains & through the countryside. They were to "buzz-boxy" for long trips.

I never even got near a Fulvia in those days & only recall seeing a few in all those 70's & 80's years... perhaps having seen most of them in glossy magazines & not on the road.

Since then, the only time I see (these days) a Fulvia, Beta or Montreal is at Club Meetings.
I haven't seen a Alfa Sud Coupe since Geronimo was a battling Custer. at Lil Big Horn.

Last year I couldn't keep up with a lovely, shiny beige Alfa Sud 4door in my Fulvia on French & German country roads while returning from the Benelux/France meeting. The owner looked very happy !

It was the 1st Alfa Sud I've seen, outside of a very few everyday junkers in Italy, in over 20 years.....and they used to be very popular....at least in south Germany, Austria, Switzerland & Italy. Go-Cart handling !
adhesion Galore, brakes from heaven...not much comfort...but who cared !

A local Alfa Club Sud 4door owner a Sud Italian living in Sud Germany, showed me 500 pictures of his Sud last year He arrived at a Lancia Club Meeting in a Lancia Thema. He, a member of various Alfa Sud Clubs, told me there are almost no Sud 4doors not in Loving-Hands anywhere in Europe & those in A1 condition are worth a fortune; especially the chrome-bumper-models*.

*Those built after the initial rust- problems were solved. He laughed while reporting that none of the early Suds lasted long enough to pass a highway inspection after 1 year & were all scrapped.

He said that there are perhaps 100 Sud Coupes left in Europe, but they are worth nothing ? & that there are no 'model-specific' Coupe parts available. And that no one is "collecting/preserving" them

Back to the present: my guess is that nice Fulvias were sold "back-then" for fair 'used-car' prices .... after going through at least 1 total body restauration...
which probably cost 3x what the car was worth - after the restoration was done

I haven't got a story to tell, so you will just have to make do with the answer to your question :
13.8 sch / euro on 1st Jan 2002

Helmut Neverla is the best address in Austria. He made my Fulvia Zagato two years ago. The car runs unstoppable. He also prepared the Lancia Stratos that won the the prototype class in the Concorso d'eleganza Villa d'Este 2008.