Color codes for 1970 Flavia 2000 coupe

[Henrik]

Salve Lancisti.

Has anyone got these? The car is white (sort of)
In the glove compartment was slip of paper saying: Italver 2.443.903 Can anyone translate that into something usefull?
Did 1970 Flavias use the same colors as 1970 Fulvias?
Any help appreciated.

Henrik

[rossocorsa]

If you are going for originality you need to be careful because Flavia coupes were built at Pininfarina and they used their own colours often similar but not the same as Lancia, I don't have a Flavia 2000 coupe colour chart only the later 2000 coupe one which in any case doesn't give precise colour names/codes so I can't help but no doubt someone else can



it is further complicated by the fact that the names the sales team used didn't match the glove box label for instance I had a 2000HF that was originally 'rosso scuro' but the paint label (if I remember right) said 'amaranto'

[Colin]

Flavia 2000 used some of the same colours as the early Flavias and the 2000s (see attachment - the bianco is open at the bottom with contamination from the blue sample on top of it when stored). Assuming your car is the Bianco rather than the Avorio, then the nearest colour is:-
Spies & Hecker 212 Bianco 19267 which is a 1960s colour used on Fiats and Lancias.

[Ed Levin]

The earlier Flavia Coupé (1500 or 1800) used Pininfarina colors, for which the codes aren't readily available. But there's no such thing as a "Flavia 2000 Coupé"; after the Fiat takeover, the Flavia name was dropped for the revised model, so it's just a "Coupé 2000", which means Rossocorsa's color chart is exactly right for the car in question. I don't know the translation for the Italver code, but if it's the white (bianco), the Glasurit code is LAN 220; if it's the ivory (avorio), then the Glasurit code is LAN 221.

[rossocorsa]

Ed Levin Wrote:
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> But there's no such thing as a
> "Flavia 2000 Coupé"; after the Fiat takeover, the
> Flavia name was dropped for the revised model, so
> it's just a "Coupé 2000",

no they did a 'flavia 2000 coupe' first I've had both and there are a lot of differences between the two versions although superficially they look similar

[Ed Levin]

Yes, my mistake; I re-checked, and the 1969-70 820 Coupés with hood scoops were indeed still badged as Flavias. I have the same color chart as the one you posted, and it's dated 1972. My 1970 color chart has the colors for the Flavia Berlina and the Fulvias. But it doesn't indicate it's for the Flavia Coupé, which means that a 1970 "Flavia 2000 Coupé" would still have been using the Pininfarina colors, which no one seems to know the codes for. The color codes I referenced are correct for the "non-Flavia" 2000 Coupé only.

[Henrik]

Thanks for trying to help me out.
I did not know that PF actually build the cars ?
Anyway, a good paintshop should be able to recreate the paint from scratch.
If it ever gets as far as a real repaint. It will be Blu Lancia. I can manage the code for that

Henrik

[Ed Levin]

Pininfarina did indeed build the Flavia Coupés, as well as design them.

[rossocorsa]

AFAIK the give away as to if a car was built at pininfarina is the 'F' badge, they usually only put that on cars actually built by them hence on some inferior marques such as Ferrari you sometimes get the 'disegno di pininfarina' (not sure I've spelt that right!) badge instead. You should find that there is a pininfarina body number on a small metal plate as well as the lancia chassis number and also a small stamped plate on the boot floor if my memory is working correctly (?)

[gamma a.i.]

rossocorsa Wrote:
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> AFAIK the give away as to if a car was built at pininfarina is the 'F' badge, they usually only put that on cars actually built by them hence on some inferior marques such as Ferrari you sometimes get the 'disegno di pininfarina' (not sure I've spelt that right!) badge instead. You should find that there is a pininfarina body number on a small metal plate as well as the lancia chassis number and also a small stamped plate on the boot floor if my memory is working correctly (?)

John replies: ha ha; I really like this "comment" & verify its authenticity.
Anyone can drive a Ferrari ! After all they either get crashed beyond repair or get rusty, old & beat .. to then be restored, time & time again, until they are worth (on paper/time & money invested) more than the Leaning Tour of Pizza. That is why there are so many of the around; like Taxi's in Manhattan..

When Lancia get / got old & rusty they usually (boo hoo) were (are) rolled into the scrap yard.
Sometimes even before they are even old or even rusty :X!

Ask Marco of Torino (who works for Lancia!), who was at a local scrap yard looking for an Ford Escort glove-box cover last year when he, by luck of being in the rite time & place at the right time, rescued a close-to-perfect Pininfarina Lancia (which will be the "Carz arz the Starz Star-Car at Lancia MMII in April in Stuttgart /u] from a quick death. At a price that was less than the value of the aluminum of which the motor is constructed". Bravo Marco; Thank You God of Old Lancia !

Its original owner had been told, by an misinformed neighbor?tt? "that &%ß> old hunka junk" is illegal to drive; you better scrap it before you get arrested". . This law-abiding-citizen rode directly to the scrap yard , where Marco, who runs very fast, has very good eyes & ears, saw him approaching.
Marco (Lightning Bolt) reached the car before it entered the scrapyard.

The rest is Lancia History .

This would never happen to a Ferrari; although I've seen a few that it should have happened to.

Not so many years ago "restorablle" Monte Carlo Beta / Fulvia etc were being scrapped. Unless such a rarepreciousbeatuiful is beyond the beyond; that will not happen andmore.

Many a Lancia owner has never known / found out when their Gamma / Flavia / MCarlo etc was actually produced; since they all should have / are supposed to have a Lancia Vehicle ID Plate + a Pininfarina ID Plate, with totally different dates of manufacture & #'s. Of course the PF #'s are newer, since these cars arrived at PF at least partially assembled. When the #'s are 2 years apart...well, that I don't understand either.

At the Vehicle Registration boards & during criminal police investigations they probably shake their heads & don't bother checking the punched-in #'s; which sometimes ? / often ? / always? are different depending on what area of the car is being checked.

Gamma Jeff has explained that this is/was due to various reasons, understood only by those assembling the car ... or perhaps not even them B)

sorry for all the underlining; I only wanted to underline 1 line (now in fat letters) ; but now I don't know how to get rid of the lines that you see.

finally: the Pininfarina Gamma & the Pininfarina 2000 Coupe were being produced at the same time for a period of time at PF. As much as I like my Gamma, I can't imagine (sorry Gamma boys) why anyone would have chosen a PF Gamma over a PF 2000 ....ALTHOUGH I HAVE READ in reprints of old Car Reviews that the PF 2000 was a very problematic & iffy Diva....& we all know that the Gamma was perfect, right out of the Box :)B)-