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I have long been fascinated by the various "transitional" Fulvias, made between 1970 and 71. Here in England, dear old Harry Manning used to refer to them as "S one-and-a half" i.e. S1.5!

Obviously this arose as Lancia used up stock of S1 parts.

Here at the workshop we have just now a quite unusual one: the car, nominally a S2 1.3 Fulvia, carries a 1972 registration. It has proper tubular wishbones, greasable ball-joints top and bottom, greasable upper wishbone bushes (but not lower) and most curious of all, S1 track rods. Now as it has S2 brakes of course, it has the curved steering arms to the hubs (to clear the top of the four pot calipers) yet they must obviously be bored to accept the S1 taper. A pair of these hub carriers would be a prize indeed for any S1 owner wanting to fit the SII front calipers....

Unusually, this car has S2 driveshafts - I have seen transitional cars with S1 shafts; I understand that these had special output flanges to accept the pot joints as the later output shaft spline is different.

I should be interested to hear others' experiences of these "lucky-dip" cars

Paul

Paul,

Two years ago I had to replace a warped rear brake disk on my 1971 1.3s Coupe. I begin an internet search to find someone who could sell or rent the hub nut tool. I should have known there might be a problem when an Italian parts place would only send me the tool if I sent them a photo of the hub.

I rented a 2S hub tool from England (I live in the USA) which of course would not work because my Coupe had a 1S hub. Fortuantly, my mechanic is a wizard and managed to make a correct tool from a part that was in a Ford truck FWD transfer case that he had rusting away in his yard.

Leonard

Paul de Raymond Leclercq wrote:
>
> I have long been fascinated by the various "transitional"
> Fulvias, made between 1970 and 71. Here in England, dear old
> Harry Manning used to refer to them as "S one-and-a half"
> i.e. S1.5!
>
> Obviously this arose as Lancia used up stock of S1 parts.
>
> Here at the workshop we have just now a quite unusual one:
> the car, nominally a S2 1.3 Fulvia, carries a 1972
> registration. It has proper tubular wishbones, greasable
> ball-joints top and bottom, greasable upper wishbone bushes
> (but not lower) and most curious of all, S1 track rods. Now
> as it has S2 brakes of course, it has the curved steering
> arms to the hubs (to clear the top of the four pot calipers)
> yet they must obviously be bored to accept the S1 taper. A
> pair of these hub carriers would be a prize indeed for any S1
> owner wanting to fit the SII front calipers....
>
> Unusually, this car has S2 driveshafts - I have seen
> transitional cars with S1 shafts; I understand that these had
> special output flanges to accept the pot joints as the later
> output shaft spline is different.
>
> I should be interested to hear others' experiences of these
> "lucky-dip" cars
>
> Paul

Yes, of course I did not mention that aspect: i.e. that the S1.5s often had six-notch ring nuts rather than the later three-notch ones.

Incidentally I have since discovered that the customer's car I mentioned is actually a very early one that was registered late in the UK. I suspect that it was made either late 1970 or early 1971.

Paul