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Guten tag aus Italien mein name is Antonio D'Ippolito un ich bin ein Thema fun seit schon 19 jahre, genau von mein erste aufenthalt in Deutschland 1985-1988.
In deutschland habe ich meine erste Thema gekauft mit PRV motor, jetz auto ist ohne schild in sud-Italien Calabrien aber vieve teile sind gut metal kette ich habe also kompressor installiert.

Ich bin 40 jahre alt un meinberuf ist touristik operator ich fhure eine reiseburo in Soverato. (sehr schon gegen)

Seit 2000 habe ich gekauf ein Thema Turbo 16v LX blu madras mit alle optionals fahrzeug ist ein von letzen gebaut zweite version (1988-1992) may 1992.

Thema ist zu sehen hier

http://www.viva-lancia.com/lancia_fora/ ... =133&t=133

und auch hier
http://www.viva-lancia.com/lancia_fora/ ... =846&t=797

(I use english now)
I have the car from 2000 and I manage it as a Thema maniac Thema is perfect I chance many parts and the value of parts and maintenance is over 10.000 eur the car is original in each part. (except front grill is from 8.32 but I hold of course the old one too)

Actual I put on sell my Thema lx because I want to buy one 8.32. The Thema for the moment is on sell on this forum and in Japan.

Exact version is:

104.593.1 BN.LX 2000 IE TB16V USA'83 (ABS+INTELLIGENT SUSPENSION)

Engine version is 834C1.246

maintenance and parts:
143 km all betls engine and services
145 km gas injection system with electronic control***

(in Italy gas is half price of gasoline this system use injector so no problem with turbo
price of gas is half of gasoline power is only 8% less) (I use now only gasoline because I drive for few kilometres it is also possible de-install the system if you don’t need) System is electronic and controlled from lambda sensor.

169 km front wheel brakes full parts
169 km air cond gas container
174 km water pump
182 km clutch and clutch cylinder
182 km some front bearing
182 km some rear bearing
191 km both front swinging arms
192 km 16 valves head thermostat and belts****
192 km both front shock absorber electronic****
192 km special front bulbs from England
192 km both rear shock absorber hydraulic****
192 km suspension level regulator****
192 km front glass and windows around parts
203 km services belts
203 km front brake skates
211 km rear side glass, electrical mirror
211 km body paint and minor parts changing****
215 km aiir fluss meter
215 km cleaning of fuel injection system
215 km rear brake skates
215 km head engine sensor
215 km engine front support
215 km center and terminal exhaust pipe
215 first pipe flexibile****
215 black indicator front light
216 km 8.32 grill
216 km front door inside switch
216 km air suspantion accumulator from Germany****
217 km airconditioning head fun
217 km Gas airconditioning upgrade to actual standard
217 km 4 tyers Michelin Pilot Exalto 205/55 ZR****

How you can see I handle the car with care with **** are the most expansive elements has I told the value is around 10.000 not included are minor things 7 change oil (i use only original Selenia K 20) 6 oil filter, 6 engine air filter, 6 times spark pugs,spark cable etc.

The skill I had it was that the Thema lx had to remain original so everything I done go in this way.
The car I buy with 143.000 km now has 219.000 km and now is more younger then 7 years ago the car is safe, confortable and fast.

Price: Regarding price I would like to receive if it possible minimum 5000,00 Eur Max 6000,00 Eur so in this range.

I want to sell it as I told because I want to upgrade to one 8.32 but I need around 10.000 eur so if I sell lx I can buy it paying the different.

From Germany to where I live there are many low costs airlines if someof you has interess and want to pick up directly the car otherwise the transport fom here by truck to north Italien cost around 300,00 eur.

Good luck with selling a series 2 Thema LX for this amount!

Thanks Maarten Thema expert knows what's the value of this car I use also modern TDCi engine (Ford)but when I drive Thema it's always a full satisfactions experience!
This car has two souls.
One confortable elegance, one sport and agressiv.
Sterring feeling, asset on sport position, engine power with all two turbo valves open is very exciting like also driving slow on auto position (air suspention) the feeling is smooth like silk on the road. Incredible for a car of 15 years ago.
I try to sell it because I find one 8.32 not far from me in good condition and I use Thema only in summer (3 months) so I can manage also 8.32 with not big problem of money.
The problem is tax too high in Italy for both cars, if I don't sell Lx i will wait untill my Thema became historical 4 years after that tax and insurance are less then 150,00 eur a year so I can aslo buy 8.32 and hold an manage both 2.

Ciao Antonio

Hello Antonio,

What I meant is that it will take a while to sell a Thema at a reasonable price. I'm currently building an Lancia Thema 8.32 SW, so I can shortly enjoy the sound of the V8. I'm someone who doesn't sell Thema's. The result is that I have already 5 Thema's (demolished 3, sold only 2).

No problem I understand very well. My result is

3 Themas

6v PRV 1st series (for parts)
2000 16v LS 3rd series (for parts) (my brother's old car)

2000 turbo 16v lx 2nd series

fortunatly I have the space where hold the cars

Thanks for your replay. If you can help me I would be very glade.
I don't want make money but upgrade from lx to 8.32 the price that I ask I know is correct for buyer and seller.

Ciao Antonio

ps (send me photo of your future 8.32)

In my opinion it is impossible to sell a Serie 2 LX with this mileage for this price. Aprox. 2.000 € is much more realistic...and with the LPG-System (wich mark?) it could maybe be a problem to get it legal on the streets here in germany - you need to have a exhaust gas survey...and the hole lpg system needs aproved about ECE R67/01 and ECE R115.

This is shurely a fantastic car - i would like to give you the adwise to keep the car...

priwet.kto gowarim po russki??

Hello Holger thanks for message. Economic thinking you are right but Thema passion is no economic thinking. Consider that I pay 1400,00 eur only for front scockabsorber few few people would pay this amonut for scock absorber of a car but more then money I spend many many time about car research parts was incredible fluss meter example I find in Rome after contacting more then 35 car demolition so like air accumulator I find using internet thanking one german internet friend direct in your country from this company

http://www.simrit.de/web/public/home

All this has value now I am in contact with one dealer that has one 8.32 it seems in good condition but I have to see the car in the next days. If is intresting I will continue if car is no good I don't need to sell lx.

About miliage with my 6 Pvr I drive 397,000 km without problem I also change inside irons chain , when I stop the car the body was down but the engine was excellent no oil need and also after a trip of 1000 km I lived in Assisi also the engine was not so hot. This to say that is also how people drive and manage the maintenance.
Regarding LPG system system I install in 2000 it is a EGI-Multipoint system from company now called

http://www.necam.nl/english/index.html

in Italy was the only one possible for turbo engine and official is installed on Subaru and Volvo

this is one view of the system sorry if is in italian I don't find other

http://www.cargas.it/egi/

Ciao Antonio