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Joop wrote:
> Question about this one, how can you see that you have such a
> version then? This because i
> have this Fulvia version.
> The only thing that's missing are the seat's in my car.


The simplest way to explain this version is to say that it looks like a Fanalone: rubber windscreen surround, lightweight HF seats, and grab handles instead of armrests. In one of the photos it appears to have black plastic wheel arch extensions, but if you look very closely at the photograph, it is possible that these are the steel arches of the S2 1600HF shell which have been retouched to look black. It also has no bumpers, and no square holes in the wings for the bumper attachments (though these could easily have been retouched in the photos).

But otherwise it has the S2 bodyshell: double row of slots in the front valence, S2 indicators, S2 bonnet badge, S2 rear badges.

As I indicated earlier, the only place I have seen this version is in the factory “Fulvia 1600HF” brochure (stampata 8799387); a brochure that folds out to a poster. But it is presented in that brochure as a separate variant. As I say, I’ve always suspected that this was simply a ruse to maintain the homologation of the Fanalone, and that this variant is a phantom.

IF this version exists, it is the only S2 body shell without the square bumper attachment holes in the front wings. Even the bumperless Montecarlo retains the square holes in the wings.

So I suppose that’s the best way to tell. Do you have the square holes in the front wings?

Phil wrote:

> Another thing, the car is fitted with Cromodoras from a
> Flavia. What size tyres should be fitted.


I assume you're talking about the 5-1/2 x 14 alloys. If so, they were fitted with 175/80-14s on the Flavia, and that's also the standard tire size for the S2 1600HF. The standard HF fitment was the Michelin XAS, but Michelin's re-issue of the XAS does not include the 175/80-14. (Vredestein currently makes a 175/80-14.)

OK guys - great work.... Now can someone write up the "spec sheet" for the s. 1 and s. 2 1600, in detail? Would be nice to have it all together....

Geoff

Uniroyal Rallye also make a tyre that size which I have found excellent in the both wet and dry.

Good idee' Phil
racing seats R "the answer"; along with a smaller, fatter "tiller"; as I rote about -alot- las' yr. I now have a much better car to drive than I did "b4"

I've kept all the original parts after I "upgraded". In case I ever wish to "retain-originality".

Jus a few days ago I was told that it "isn't too-difficult" to repair the original right seat (LHDcar) - that has a tendency to 1/2-recline-sometimes / always-unexpectedly, as Claire discovered on our 2007 Fulvia days together (posted here in 2007) & to collapse-completely /( also-unexpectedly, at other times...= NO FUN !!!

Which is 1 reason I replaced both seats. 1 other reason is (as you said) - all squishy & far too big for a Fulvia - & 1 more reason being - "for the size "butts" in this family (read "skinny/boney)" tighter seats were desirable . and I also felt / feel "sturdier seats" would be / are safer to sit in.

I spend very little buying a "nice-enough" pair of quite-solid, quite-used, thin-upolstered & fit-fine racing ? (style) seats (they have "Monza" sewn into the seat-back, so I assume "Monza made em"; which ...recently more improved by newly inserted thick-felt-material-seat-pads (not attractive, but certainly more "butt- comfy" than previously) which also raise the cushion height higher off the floor & prevent permanent spinal-injury when crasing around back-roads. The racey-seats are not "well-cushioned".

A sort of funny, side-story is that the previous owner of my Fulvia had this felt-padding custom-cut & laid under the rubber mats, f&r. They have wonderful water-retaining-properties, so I took them out & set them aside - in a place I wouldn't forget.. I hoped !

Some days before setting-off for the recent "Benelux-France Suicide Dash" I remembered that I still had them & that 2 were cut for the floor behind the seats. I decided that they really intended to be seat-pads & not floor pads. End of funny-story !

The racey-seat are now decorated red with harness safety-belts ... which I hope are actually worth the effort involved in installing...again for "safety", not specifically for "looks"...although red belts in a red car does have a certain "charm"

I other effect is that the car now looks (to me anyway) "like a more serious Fulvia Zagato" & less of a "racer-bodied-flea with luxus GT style, slippery, slidey (sweaty) (ugly!ish!) plasticine-Flavia-seats".

Lastly, I wasn't impressed with the original head-rests either; the built-in headrests of the racing seats lead me believe I have afforded all inhabitants more protection.

Next improvements: spiffy "red-racing-shoes, then boy-racer plexi-plastic front-candle covers", then a lite-wait roll-cage, then steel-beams in doors and and and ... sorry, I am just dreaming.

& I didn't have a drop of Grappa (yet) tonite.

Phil, Let me/us know what you decide & how you progress !!!!!

Phil wrote:

Oh I really don't like seats, all squishy far too big for Fulvia! Maybe need to find some racing buckets!

I can report that the arm-rests are (at least in a Z) just trim...they are far too low to rest normal lenth arms on. Next time I go to the Zoo, I'll borrow a gorilla, nooo, I mean a chimpanzee, or was it an orangutan ?!

Good morning Ed,

To answer you question i can tell you that i don't have the square holes in the front wing.
Best regards,
Joop

Hi Joop,
That's VERY interesting. And it's a chassis type 818.740? with small main beams?

Maybe they were welded up by a copycat?

Tim

Sorry Tim,
But there is nothing welded into the frontwing.....i presume that you mean this.

Joop