Owner's Manual - Sorry for posting in English

[Amigoivo]

Moin starbiker,

Ich dachte du meintest es gibt die CD garnicht.

Aus zuverlässiger Quelle weiß ich das fr00la ein Kroate ist B)
Da kannst du aber nix für, hat er ja nie erwähnt.


Viele Grüße, Ivo

[fr00la]

ufff......could you please summarize all this in one reply

i guess that information would be quite useful...

basically do i need to upgrade the software or does it run on original settings...?

thanks!

[fr00la]

Hi Starbiker,

I think there is a Central Europe CD....I've found it here.....

http://www.navigation.com/is-bin/INTERS ... onMenu=YES

If the link doesn't take you directly to the cd you can easily navigate to it from www.navigation.com

Thanks!

[starbiker]

Yes, this is the central Europe CD but when I think about central Europe I also think about France, Benelux, which is not part of this CD, also Germany is not fully covered. So maybe we had a misunderstanding here. If the coverage of this CD serves your needs, then this one is the one to go for.

Cheers....Starbiker

[starbiker]

Hi there,
we were talking about the central Europe CD one one hand (were I did say there are only country-specific CDs), but now we worked out that there is also a thing called "Central Europe" CD which covers a fraction of central Europe... B)

Other thing was talking about which SW-level on the Connect is required to run the Opel CD. There is no definitve answer, I can only say that mine has version 4.23 and loads Opel CDs like a charm. However, I don't see any reason why the Opel CDs should not work on previous levels, but with software you never know..... Version is display by pressing and holding the "Main" button on the Connect for 10 seconds or so.

If those Opel CDs for the NCDR-system work in your Thesis you will get a complete European package (8-CDs) at navigation.com for the price of 2 single CDs. Check out Built-in/Factory installed --> Opel/Vauxhall --> Astra --> 2000 --> NCDR

Other, good source for cheaper, legal procurement of those CDs is also ebay.

Maybe you have a friend in your area with a factory installed navigation system in his Opel to borrow the CD for a minute to check whether it works....

Good luck....Starbiker

[GWB]

The Opel / Vauxhall CDs for the NCDx systems work fine under the older software levels.
Best,
GWB

[starbiker]

Just an addition: for Opel's NCDR-systems there is no "Central Europe", the CD with the same coverage it is called "Alps", which makes also more sense than "Central Europe". (tu)

[fr00la]

Ok....this is what i call excellent news....i think my Connect hasn't been upgraded at all....and it's 2003 model. What do you think...will it work?

And I'm looking for a map of Croatia in particular....is it covered by any NCDR discs?

starbiker also mentioned to use NSCD discs...but what do you guys say on this post here...

http://www.gpsunderground.com/forums/sh ... ght=thesis

" DO NOT TRY NCDR discs It will possibly render your navigation completely useless!

I fully agree that the lay out of the files resembles the NCDR type but there are major differences also.
It all starts with the CDROM.TOC file:
Example: Italy and Major Roads of Europe 2007/2008

SiemensVDO Automotive AG
SV I IS R&D SW RBG

Volume: CD_5192
Date: 28. Set 2007
db: italy mre - 444.31.440.1.82L1 for Lancia - ZIP3kb - feaV8 - pti(Lancia)
voice: IX12CR: 8. Dezember 2007:
d2imnha7.dat e2mcnha7.dat f2bmnha7.dat i2glnhab.dat u2npnha7.dat
sw: IX12CR: LANA646D
idis: LA0537N + LA0228N (Telephone 5.6 + 3.0)"

[GWB]

The Opel/Vauxhall Siemens NCDR and NCDC systems work with the same database format as the Lancia Thesis system (and the G3 system used in Lancia Lybra and some Porsche types).
However, the Thesis CD's have some special files, which contain information for the Connect system, such as audio files for the voice control (in a somewhat garbled wav format) and menu structures. You can find them all when you view the contents of the CD in your computer: It is a normal DOS/Windows-formatted file system containing different folders, including the GPS database.
The Thesis-specific files do not seem to be mandatory, as the Connect system works fine without them. Perhaps they are needed after a complete system reboot, which never heppened to me.
Best,
GWB

[fr00la]

Thank you so much for your excessive answer...

Can you please tell me if any of these compatible discs is covering Croatia (as a part of Central Europe or similar)?

And you have mentioned NCDR and NCDC systems....but where does Opel's CD70 system fit in.....and does it have the same database?

One of the suggestions somewhere on the forums was to take DB folder from one disc and burn to a brand new CD along with Thesis specific files from Thesis disc. This way I could get almost any map made by NAVTEQ...

Thanks!