Peter, thanks for the information! I think I'm going to try the EBC greenstuff.
A couple of EBC vendors seem to indicate that the "Yellow Stuff" specification is also suitable for street use. Does anyone on the list have experience with using these on a daily driver Fulvia?
And, Peter: thanks also for the great videos you have up on Lanciaracing.com. Very inspirational!
California Melee X
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Michael Beattie
Re: brake fade
Shaun
I'm using Green Stuff pads on my HF1600, they have proved so far to be a great improvement over the "std" pads that were in before. However, they do produce dust, probably more than the original pads, but then if you want better performance, you are going to use more pad
I'm using Green Stuff pads on my HF1600, they have proved so far to be a great improvement over the "std" pads that were in before. However, they do produce dust, probably more than the original pads, but then if you want better performance, you are going to use more pad
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shaun pond
Re: Melee
Hi Peter, hope you had a good vacation.
The Melee was great. You need to do it in your Fulvia next year.
My car's bumpers are safely lodged in the rafters of my garage. Two reasons:
1. I like the bumperless look, and
2. The local infestation of large SUVs means that the Fulvia's bumpers are decorative rather than protective in parking situations.
I've got my fog lights mounts coming out of the front bumper holes; need to source some HF finishers for the bumper holes in the rear.
Regards
The Melee was great. You need to do it in your Fulvia next year.
My car's bumpers are safely lodged in the rafters of my garage. Two reasons:
1. I like the bumperless look, and
2. The local infestation of large SUVs means that the Fulvia's bumpers are decorative rather than protective in parking situations.
I've got my fog lights mounts coming out of the front bumper holes; need to source some HF finishers for the bumper holes in the rear.
Regards
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shaun pond
Re: brake fade
Michael, thanks.
I'd noticed that the current pads on the car don't produce much in the way of dust. I'll trade more braking performance for more cosmetic maintenance.
Or, since I'll be needing to refinish the wheels on the car sometime anyway, perhaps I'll repaint or powder coat them in "brake dust grey". ;>)
I'd noticed that the current pads on the car don't produce much in the way of dust. I'll trade more braking performance for more cosmetic maintenance.
Or, since I'll be needing to refinish the wheels on the car sometime anyway, perhaps I'll repaint or powder coat them in "brake dust grey". ;>)
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Huib
Re: brake fade
I would not go any further than greenstuff. These are organic pads that can be installed without replacing or turning the discs. They are also friendly to the discs. Replacing discs on a Fulvia is costly and a lot of work requiring special tools. Friction coefficient is most likely higher than your current pads. So you have to install them at the front and at the rear to maintain brake balance.
It is also a good idea to keep an extra set in the trunk at all times. If the wheel brake cilinders start to leak the problem is often solved by replacing the pad.
It is also a good idea to keep an extra set in the trunk at all times. If the wheel brake cilinders start to leak the problem is often solved by replacing the pad.
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shaun pond
Re: brake fade
Huib:
You said:
"...If the wheel brake cylinders start to leak the problem is often solved by replacing the pad."
Is this kind of leakage because of the design of the cylinder seals (perhaps it's marginal at the end of the life of the pad?), or due to internal cylinder corrosion patterns (e.g. with seldom driven cars), or something else?
Thanks!
You said:
"...If the wheel brake cylinders start to leak the problem is often solved by replacing the pad."
Is this kind of leakage because of the design of the cylinder seals (perhaps it's marginal at the end of the life of the pad?), or due to internal cylinder corrosion patterns (e.g. with seldom driven cars), or something else?
Thanks!
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P. de R. Leclercq
Re: brake fade
I think I mentioned this before, but I will echo Peter's comments: Yellow Stuff is superb. It's not supposed to be, being nominally a pretty hard competition pad, but in reality it works really well and does not shred the discs either
Paul
Paul
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shaun pond
Re: brake fade
Paul, thanks.
But do you use Yellowstuff on your Fulvia for daily driving?
And is daily driving in that lovely part of the world where you live very similar to what I experience here in the San Francisco area?
Here, it involves a fair amount on the freeway with sometimes oblivious SUV drivers, many of whom spend way too much of their 'attention budget' on their cellphone conversations instead of their driving.
And my understanding of competition pads is that they really don't start to work well until they're warm. Is that true with Yellowstuff?
Thanks again!
But do you use Yellowstuff on your Fulvia for daily driving?
And is daily driving in that lovely part of the world where you live very similar to what I experience here in the San Francisco area?
Here, it involves a fair amount on the freeway with sometimes oblivious SUV drivers, many of whom spend way too much of their 'attention budget' on their cellphone conversations instead of their driving.
And my understanding of competition pads is that they really don't start to work well until they're warm. Is that true with Yellowstuff?
Thanks again!
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Thomas
Re: brake fade
I'd hate to disturb the proceedings of this post, but I must mention the fact that I have a completely standard series 1 setup without booster in my Zagato (though I have steel braided brakelines I did not feel that to be provide that much of a difference), and every single fulvia-adept that has driven it has found the braking to be excellent, with good bite. Perhaps not good enough for the racers among us (Peter, Paul?) but more than sufficient for the casual driver. So my point is simply, are you sure your braking system is OK before trying things that may not necessarily resolve, or worse even hide, other problems?