Dear Peter
Thanks
The ones from Evocars, witch make is that, Boge, Koni or..? Do you remember how much the original shocks costed? How are the 8.32 rear shocks different ?
Kind regards
Villads Bønding
PS my car is a Thema Turbo LX with black poltrona frau. The LX makes a lot of difference. But the engine is not as nice as in the 8.32!
automatic suspension, problems
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Pol
Re: automatic suspension, problems
Hi Villads,
I don't remember it beïng more quiet in sport or auto mode, except for the rattling noises, but I usually drove in auto mode wich made the car more comfortable and less 'bumpy'. The road stability in my opinion was alike in either wich mode it was in (maybe the suspension was worn, but that I'll never know since... etc.etc ).
The road noise, i guess it comes from either the wheel bearings or the tyres, not the suspension.
The '94 isn't any more noisy than the '92. The '92 had few more rattle & cloincks, but it also had done over 280.000 km, so it wouldn't be fair to compare with the 'new one' wich has only 150.000 km and is 2 years younger.
My wife drives a '91 16V wich engine is more noisy , but it's a non-turbo so again : don't compare.
Anyway, I'm glad there are more Thema-crazy's like me who insist on keeping these great cars rolling.
Greetings,
Pol
I don't remember it beïng more quiet in sport or auto mode, except for the rattling noises, but I usually drove in auto mode wich made the car more comfortable and less 'bumpy'. The road stability in my opinion was alike in either wich mode it was in (maybe the suspension was worn, but that I'll never know since... etc.etc ).
The road noise, i guess it comes from either the wheel bearings or the tyres, not the suspension.
The '94 isn't any more noisy than the '92. The '92 had few more rattle & cloincks, but it also had done over 280.000 km, so it wouldn't be fair to compare with the 'new one' wich has only 150.000 km and is 2 years younger.
My wife drives a '91 16V wich engine is more noisy , but it's a non-turbo so again : don't compare.
Anyway, I'm glad there are more Thema-crazy's like me who insist on keeping these great cars rolling.
Greetings,
Pol
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Peter Tyndale
Re: automatic suspension, problems
Hi Villads,
sorry - been away for a few days.
Right - shocks from Evocars came from Germany, and are called Kayala
made by Boge (I think). They cost around each 110 Euros each.
At that price I'm quite happy with their performance. I was quoted 550Euros
EACH for the standard units from Lancia.
The rear shocks for the 832 and 16v are dimensionally different. Fitting the
16v units to the 832 results in the back of the car sitting around 5cms too high.
As I found out!! The problem lies in the distance from the bottom of the shock
to the spring platform, and the overall length. On the 832 they are 43cm and
54cm respectively, and 45.8cm and 55cm on the 16v. The only way a 16v
shock can be used on an 832 is to fit a shorter spring - which is what I ended
up doing. I have heard that shocks from certain Croma and Alfa 164 models
might fit and be cheaper - haven't had that confirmed.
Hope this is of help to you.
Regards
Peter
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Markus
Re: automatic suspension, problems
hi
iam markus from germany.
where do you came from .the red warn lamp from automatic suspension is lightning also during the ignition turn on???or came the red light back after starting the engine .?
sorry my englisch is not very good.
you can send my also a email with my second adress mwracing@t-online.de
graetings fro markus
iam markus from germany.
where do you came from .the red warn lamp from automatic suspension is lightning also during the ignition turn on???or came the red light back after starting the engine .?
sorry my englisch is not very good.
you can send my also a email with my second adress mwracing@t-online.de
graetings fro markus
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Villads Bønding
Re: automatic suspension, problems
Dear Markus
when i turn the key to the MAR position without turning on the engine, the automatic suspension warning light will come on for about 3 sekunds, whith all the other warning lamps, during the normal system check. Then the suspension warning light will turn off for 3 sekunds and then turn on again without starting the engine (still in MAR). When i turn on the engine the suspension warning light will stay on. When i drive the car i can not feel anything wrong with the suspension exept that is always in the "sport" mode. Can you from this tell me more about what is wrong ?
I can see in the manual that the system can be cheched with a "FIAT tester". Is that a standard equipment in a FIAT/Lancia repear shop or is it a speciel tool for the atomatic suspension?
Kind regards
Villads Bønding
Denmark
when i turn the key to the MAR position without turning on the engine, the automatic suspension warning light will come on for about 3 sekunds, whith all the other warning lamps, during the normal system check. Then the suspension warning light will turn off for 3 sekunds and then turn on again without starting the engine (still in MAR). When i turn on the engine the suspension warning light will stay on. When i drive the car i can not feel anything wrong with the suspension exept that is always in the "sport" mode. Can you from this tell me more about what is wrong ?
I can see in the manual that the system can be cheched with a "FIAT tester". Is that a standard equipment in a FIAT/Lancia repear shop or is it a speciel tool for the atomatic suspension?
Kind regards
Villads Bønding
Denmark
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andreas
Re: automatic suspension, problems
dear villads bonding,
check the continuity of the shock´s wire. reconect the shocks (only the conectors)
from the harness.I suppose that one of the shockwires is broken.
let me know what you have found.
bye Andreas
some infos more:
All "electric shocks" and the leveling are produced by boge.
the konventional shock are produced by Boge ( all incl.8.32) too and
shared with APA Kayaba ( but if i remember well without 8.32)
APA Kayaba is Yapanese producer with a factory in Italy
check the continuity of the shock´s wire. reconect the shocks (only the conectors)
from the harness.I suppose that one of the shockwires is broken.
let me know what you have found.
bye Andreas
some infos more:
All "electric shocks" and the leveling are produced by boge.
the konventional shock are produced by Boge ( all incl.8.32) too and
shared with APA Kayaba ( but if i remember well without 8.32)
APA Kayaba is Yapanese producer with a factory in Italy
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Add:43 rue de angree djibi
ABIDJAN COTE D'IVOIRE WEST AFRICA
Dear Respectful One
Permit me to inform you of my desire of going into business relationship with you. I got your contact from the International web site directory.
I prayed over it and selected your name among other names due to it's esteeming nature and the recommendations given to me as a reputable and trust worthy person I can do business with and by their recommenddations I must not hesitate to confide in you for this simple and sincere business.
I am Rose Gomo, the only Daughter of late Mr and Mrs George Gomo My father was a very wealthy cocoa merchant in Abidjan,the economic capital of Ivory Coast, before he was poisoned to death by his business associates on one of their outing to discus on a business deal.
When my mother died on the 21st October 1996, my father took me special because i am motherless. Before the death of my father on 30th June 2003 in a private hospital here in Abidjan.
He secretly called me on his bedside and told me that he has a sum of $12.500.000 (Twelve Million, five hundred thousand dollars) left in a suspense account in a local Bank here in Abidjan, that he used my name as his only Daughter for the next of kin in deposit of the fund.
He also explained to me that it was because of this wealth and some huge amount of money his business associates supposed to balance him from the deal they had, that he was poisoned by his business associates, that I should seek for a God fearing foreign partner in a country of my choice where I will transfer this money and use it for investment purpose, (such as real estate management).
Sir, we are honourably seeking your assistance in the following ways.
1) To provide a Bank account where this money would be transferred to.
2) To serve as the guardian of this since I am a girof 19 years.
Moreover Sir, i am willing to offer you 10% of the sum as compensation for effort input after the successful transfer of this fund to your designate account overseas.
Anticipating to hear from you soon.
Thanks and God Bless.
Best regards.
Miss Rose Gomo,
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Miss Rose Gomo
Re: Dear Respectful One
From :Miss Rose Gomo
Add:43 rue de angree djibi
ABIDJAN COTE D'IVOIRE WEST AFRICA
Dear Respectful One
Permit me to inform you of my desire of going into business relationship with you. I got your contact from the International web site directory.
I prayed over it and selected your name among other names due to it's esteeming nature and the recommendations given to me as a reputable and trust worthy person I can do business with and by their recommenddations I must not hesitate to confide in you for this simple and sincere business.
I am Rose Gomo, the only Daughter of late Mr and Mrs George Gomo My father was a very wealthy cocoa merchant in Abidjan,the economic capital of Ivory Coast, before he was poisoned to death by his business associates on one of their outing to discus on a business deal.
When my mother died on the 21st October 1996, my father took me special because i am motherless. Before the death of my father on 30th June 2003 in a private hospital here in Abidjan.
He secretly called me on his bedside and told me that he has a sum of $12.500.000 (Twelve Million, five hundred thousand dollars) left in a suspense account in a local Bank here in Abidjan, that he used my name as his only Daughter for the next of kin in deposit of the fund.
He also explained to me that it was because of this wealth and some huge amount of money his business associates supposed to balance him from the deal they had, that he was poisoned by his business associates, that I should seek for a God fearing foreign partner in a country of my choice where I will transfer this money and use it for investment purpose, (such as real estate management).
Sir, we are honourably seeking your assistance in the following ways.
1) To provide a Bank account where this money would be transferred to.
2) To serve as the guardian of this since I am a girof 19 years.
Moreover Sir, i am willing to offer you 10% of the sum as compensation for effort input after the successful transfer of this fund to your designate account overseas.
Anticipating to hear from you soon.
Thanks and God Bless.
Best regards.
Miss Rose Gomo,
Add:43 rue de angree djibi
ABIDJAN COTE D'IVOIRE WEST AFRICA
Dear Respectful One
Permit me to inform you of my desire of going into business relationship with you. I got your contact from the International web site directory.
I prayed over it and selected your name among other names due to it's esteeming nature and the recommendations given to me as a reputable and trust worthy person I can do business with and by their recommenddations I must not hesitate to confide in you for this simple and sincere business.
I am Rose Gomo, the only Daughter of late Mr and Mrs George Gomo My father was a very wealthy cocoa merchant in Abidjan,the economic capital of Ivory Coast, before he was poisoned to death by his business associates on one of their outing to discus on a business deal.
When my mother died on the 21st October 1996, my father took me special because i am motherless. Before the death of my father on 30th June 2003 in a private hospital here in Abidjan.
He secretly called me on his bedside and told me that he has a sum of $12.500.000 (Twelve Million, five hundred thousand dollars) left in a suspense account in a local Bank here in Abidjan, that he used my name as his only Daughter for the next of kin in deposit of the fund.
He also explained to me that it was because of this wealth and some huge amount of money his business associates supposed to balance him from the deal they had, that he was poisoned by his business associates, that I should seek for a God fearing foreign partner in a country of my choice where I will transfer this money and use it for investment purpose, (such as real estate management).
Sir, we are honourably seeking your assistance in the following ways.
1) To provide a Bank account where this money would be transferred to.
2) To serve as the guardian of this since I am a girof 19 years.
Moreover Sir, i am willing to offer you 10% of the sum as compensation for effort input after the successful transfer of this fund to your designate account overseas.
Anticipating to hear from you soon.
Thanks and God Bless.
Best regards.
Miss Rose Gomo,
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Miss Rose Gomo
Re: Dear Respectful One
From :Miss Rose Gomo
Add:43 rue de angree djibi
ABIDJAN COTE D'IVOIRE WEST AFRICA
Dear Respectful One
Permit me to inform you of my desire of going into business relationship with you. I got your contact from the International web site directory.
I prayed over it and selected your name among other names due to it's esteeming nature and the recommendations given to me as a reputable and trust worthy person I can do business with and by their recommenddations I must not hesitate to confide in you for this simple and sincere business.
I am Rose Gomo, the only Daughter of late Mr and Mrs George Gomo My father was a very wealthy cocoa merchant in Abidjan,the economic capital of Ivory Coast, before he was poisoned to death by his business associates on one of their outing to discus on a business deal.
When my mother died on the 21st October 1996, my father took me special because i am motherless. Before the death of my father on 30th June 2003 in a private hospital here in Abidjan.
He secretly called me on his bedside and told me that he has a sum of $12.500.000 (Twelve Million, five hundred thousand dollars) left in a suspense account in a local Bank here in Abidjan, that he used my name as his only Daughter for the next of kin in deposit of the fund.
He also explained to me that it was because of this wealth and some huge amount of money his business associates supposed to balance him from the deal they had, that he was poisoned by his business associates, that I should seek for a God fearing foreign partner in a country of my choice where I will transfer this money and use it for investment purpose, (such as real estate management).
Sir, we are honourably seeking your assistance in the following ways.
1) To provide a Bank account where this money would be transferred to.
2) To serve as the guardian of this since I am a girof 19 years.
Moreover Sir, i am willing to offer you 10% of the sum as compensation for effort input after the successful transfer of this fund to your designate account overseas.
Anticipating to hear from you soon.
Thanks and God Bless.
Best regards.
Miss Rose Gomo,
Add:43 rue de angree djibi
ABIDJAN COTE D'IVOIRE WEST AFRICA
Dear Respectful One
Permit me to inform you of my desire of going into business relationship with you. I got your contact from the International web site directory.
I prayed over it and selected your name among other names due to it's esteeming nature and the recommendations given to me as a reputable and trust worthy person I can do business with and by their recommenddations I must not hesitate to confide in you for this simple and sincere business.
I am Rose Gomo, the only Daughter of late Mr and Mrs George Gomo My father was a very wealthy cocoa merchant in Abidjan,the economic capital of Ivory Coast, before he was poisoned to death by his business associates on one of their outing to discus on a business deal.
When my mother died on the 21st October 1996, my father took me special because i am motherless. Before the death of my father on 30th June 2003 in a private hospital here in Abidjan.
He secretly called me on his bedside and told me that he has a sum of $12.500.000 (Twelve Million, five hundred thousand dollars) left in a suspense account in a local Bank here in Abidjan, that he used my name as his only Daughter for the next of kin in deposit of the fund.
He also explained to me that it was because of this wealth and some huge amount of money his business associates supposed to balance him from the deal they had, that he was poisoned by his business associates, that I should seek for a God fearing foreign partner in a country of my choice where I will transfer this money and use it for investment purpose, (such as real estate management).
Sir, we are honourably seeking your assistance in the following ways.
1) To provide a Bank account where this money would be transferred to.
2) To serve as the guardian of this since I am a girof 19 years.
Moreover Sir, i am willing to offer you 10% of the sum as compensation for effort input after the successful transfer of this fund to your designate account overseas.
Anticipating to hear from you soon.
Thanks and God Bless.
Best regards.
Miss Rose Gomo,