Berlina 2.8-project

[LanciaFin]

Hello all, There are two Flaminia Berlinas in Finland, and I have the pleasure to own one of them. Originally she was sold in Sweden in 1965, two years after leaving Borgo San Paolo factory in 1963. From all wear and tear I suppose that she has seen lots of miles, but is in running condition. Her move to Finland took place on 1996, was never registered here, and not much has happened ever since. Until now... Very complete documentation followed her, including original buying contract with Allan Larssons Bil A/B ("Lancia Flaminia Berlina fabriksny", 38500SEK including Tectyl-treatment, older Flaminia Berlina was given as trade-in for 10000SEK.) and lots of receipts of spare parts and services, letters to Swiss parts dealer (apparently spare parts were not so easily available in Sweden!) So, my Flaminia is one of the 599 Berlina 2.8s, colour Grigio Albany, currently as "bicolore" with black roof and trunk lid, but I think that has been a later enhancement. The Tectyl-treatment sure has saved a lot in Scandinavian environment, but winters with moisture and salt have taken their toll. But now, the first peek: https://drive.google.com/file/d/112R5Zd ... sp=sharing Some questions will follow... Best regards, Miika

[LanciaFin]

Ok, some questions, or requests... First of all, why I think that the bicolore-theme is not original, is this: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1jdchRr ... sp=sharing I don't think that Lancia first assembled their cars with all trimming, and then sprayed the bicolore-theme, if the customer requested? After careful planning I've decided to start reconditioning from the floor, which itself is in fair condition, but there are some ancient fixes on front footwells. I want to restore the shape of the floor as original as possible, so I need to request some photos, because these patches are made of plain sheets. So, are these parts of floor that straight, or is there some shaping (on right side there is a similar patch)? https://drive.google.com/file/d/1M9i-VQ ... sp=sharing The left side sill will need to be completely replaced, are there any readily available spares available? Ok, thank you, I thought so too... -D To give some idea: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1KNJH1r ... sp=sharing https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Pairxf ... sp=sharing https://drive.google.com/file/d/1l_SAPV ... sp=sharing (blind rivets...) https://drive.google.com/file/d/1KLRTnl ... sp=sharing https://drive.google.com/file/d/1bAoW9u ... sp=sharing https://drive.google.com/file/d/1wvnAHx ... sp=sharing BR, Miika

[FL30]

I am jealous

[LanciaFin]

Oh well, the footwell-thing is sorted out, there was enough original metal on right side to determine the original shape. After I had removed all non-original metal it was pretty clear, that a completely new footwell will be needed on driver's side: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1K7MR1A ... sp=sharing Replacement parts don't seem to be available (please inform, if you know something else!), so this Flaminia will start finlandizing. Interestingly the driver side footwell seems to have been replaced once, and with a correct Flaminia-part. I cannot say anything about the quality of workmanship, because I haven't found any yet. The patch next to left sill was an interesting multilayer-design, with a patch welded to both sides of the corroded floor (why?) Between layers was lots of rust and a dead bumble-bee. I mentioned that a Tectyl treatment had been done when new. Well, I don't know yet if the treatment was supposed to include cavity wax, because in the left side sill there was none, and never has been. So that's why the sill is in so sorry condition. Everything over there needs to be replaced. I'm astonished to see that the original thickess of sheet metal in sills is no less than 1.2mm. But, more to come next time... BR, Miika

[Kaha]

Hi Miika, Congratulations, really nice project! A bit sad to see it leave Sweden, but it is better off with someone who will restore it, so hopefully we will see it soon on an NLM! My father has a Berlina (a '58) which also had a Tectyl-treatment, I think it also had wax in the sills but I am not sure (also not sure if it got the treatment from new). I think that the earlier Berlinas were more often bicolore than later cars (at least the cars in Sweden) so you are probably right that it originally was a single colour. Best regards Karl

[RAFANO]

Hello Miika, there are floor panels available: https://www.kijiji.it/annunci/ricambi-a ... /108330348 You can use part 1 and 2 for your Berlina. If you need any other parts, tell me i have a lot. I also restore all locks (ignition, door, fuel-door, trunk and glovebox-lock) and have the original black and white Lancia keys! Best regards Florian

[RAFANO]

Here the Picture!

[LanciaFin]

Hi Karl, The Flaminia is not the first classic Lancia to leave Sweden, my Flavia has a similar history. Both were sold to me with a hope to keep them in Finland, or at least in Nordic countries, so something good can maybe be seen in such a sad case. -D Besides, you have much more classic Lancias over there, so it should not hurt if we get some too. B) Unfortunately the Flaminia will not be seen very soon in any NLM, but I think it would be a sin to not to visit next year with Flavia, now that the next NLM will take place in Finland. (tu) BR, Miika

[LanciaFin]

Hi all, after a several years of hibernation this is moving forward. A question about removing the rear wiring from the tube that runs inside sill: Any advice how to get it out, because it seems to be stuck in there? I'd prefer to remove it during the repairs, because some time in the history dirt has been filling the entire front part of the sill, so everything between drive shaft tunnel and sill on driver's foot well needs to be replaced. The supports (or what's left of them) seem to have been welded on the tube. I don't want to melt the wiring inside the tube.

So far I tried some CRC 5-56 inside the tube (should not react with rubber), but no change. Of course, it will also be a challenge to get it back in place in the future.

[FL30]

You might fix a wire cable to the wiring loom before you pull it out. After welding and painting you can pull the wiring loom back in. I did that once on a Coupé. Instead you may install the wiring loom lying flat under the sound deadening material and carpet on the floor. Did that once, too and it was really good. If you do that thoroughly you will not see it afterwards.

Some photos of the work would be fine Are you going to replace the supports as a whole or do you want to patch the lower parts of them?