Thesis strange electronic troubles

Pierre VALLADE
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Thesis strange electronic troubles

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Hi all,

I bought a used Thesis (V6 3.0 / 2003) near 100.000 km and I am facing several troubles probably related to Electronic.

They can be set in four categories. I don't know if the are related to the same problem or not.

1) Some times, instead of having display of mileages (partial and total) on the dashboard, I got "EOL Error" blinking (EOL instead of the partial display and Error instead of the total display). To reset, I need to stop/start the engine, sometimes it's reset, some times not. I don't know what is the meaning of "EOL Error".

2) From times to times, the radio stop automatically. Then the clock and external temperature display desappear on the dashboard. The buttons on the steering wheel don't work. When I stop the engine, the radio don't stop, I need to stop it manually. This trouble reset automatically after a period from few minutes to more than one hour.

3) The Air conditioning stops automatically it self . IE The display turns off completely and cooling stops too. To reset, I need to start the radio ???? .... No, I am not drunk.

4) From time to time, I got alarm messages on the dashboad such as "EPB" "COMFORTRONIC" "ESP" .... asking me (in french language) to go to the "atelier".

If some one in the LANCIA world has an idea,

Except that, I am very happy with this car.

Many thanks in advance.

Pierre.
Philip
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Re: Thesis strange electronic troubles

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ask in the German forum; these issues have been discussed there many times; I'm sure one can respond in English
Pierre VALLADE
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Re: Thesis strange electronic troubles

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Philip,

Done ... many thanks.


Pierre.
mikele
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Re: Thesis strange electronic troubles

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hello pierre

please work with this checklist

Moin Rainer,

und der dreckigste vorneweg.

War nen hübsch bunter Haufen.

@mauki40

Für dein Problem gibts verschiedene Lösungsansätze.

1.: Die Zusatzbatterie für die Handbremse ist alle - relativ häufig
2.: ABS Steuergerät Wackelkontakt im Stecker
3.: Steckverbindungen unter Fahrer- und Beifahrersitz
4.: Wackelkontakte im Sicherungskasten vorn im Motorraum
5. defekte Sicherung im Sicherungskasten im Kofferraum rechts

Also das ist so meine Checkliste wenn bei mir der Christbaum mal wieder leuchtet.
Ich gehe mal davon aus, das bei dir dann auch der Tacho und Drehzahlmesser auf null gehen.

Ich hatte vor ein paar Monaten auch den Christbaum und alles was ich gemacht habe hat nichts gebracht, dann hab ich beschlossen in meiner lieblings Werkstatt zur Fehleranalyse zu fahren.
Naja, wie es immer so ist, noch bevor ich in der Werkstatt war funktionierte wieder alles problemlos, bis jetzt.

Du kannst ja mit zum Thesistreffen kommen.

Viele Grüße, Ivo


Viva-Lancia!

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Pierre VALLADE
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Re: Thesis strange electronic troubles

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Mikele,

Many thanks for you reply, unfortunately I can't read the message and computer translation give me bad results. However, according to the few words I can read, I need to check the contacts.

If you have the same text in english, it should be nice.

Best regards,

Pierre
GWB
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Re: Thesis strange electronic troubles

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The text in english:
1.: The auxiliary battery for the electric parking brake is empty – quite frequent
2.: ABS computer has an insufficient contact in the connector
3.: Connectors underneath both front seats
4.: Insufficient contacts in the fuse box in the engine bay
5. broken fuse in the fuse box on the right side of the trunk

Best,
GWB
Armin
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Re: Thesis strange electronic troubles

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and in french:

Il y a plusieurs solutions possibles
1.: la batterie du frein à main est vide - assez souvent
2.: mauvaise connection dans le connecteur du controleur du ABS
3.: mauvaise connection sous les sièges de devant
4.: mauvaise connection dans la boite à fusibles dans le compartiment du moteur
5.: fusible en panne dans da boite à fusibles dans le coffre à droite (on y trouve aussi la batterie du frain à main)

Best regards
Armin
Lancia Thesis 2.4 jtd Multijet 20v Executive Comfortronic
129 kW (175 PS) bei 4000 U/min
215/60R16 95W (5-Loch Felge)
Fg.-Nr. 00009390
Motor-Nr. 3642911
Organisations-Nr. 00007796
Aussenfarbe 657
Innenfarbe 615
Datum erste Zuweisung 31.05.2003
Datum letzte Zuweisung 31.05.2003
CCF-Datum 14.05.2004
Garantiebeginn 13.04.2004
nadjaji
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Re: Thesis strange electronic troubles

Unread post by nadjaji »

For your problem there different approaches.

1: The auxiliary battery for the hand brake is empty - fairly common
2: ABS control unit loose connector contact
3: connectors under the driver's and front passenger seat
4: A bad connection in the fuse box in the engine compartment front
5 defective fuse in the fuse box in the trunk right (here you can find the Hand brake battery too)

So this is my checklist with me when the Christmas tree lights up again.
I'm assuming, then also the speedometer and tachometer go to zero too?

I also had my Christmas tree lightning up a few months ago, I've decided to have the errors analysed in my favorite garage.
Well, as is always the case, even before I was in the garage, everything worked again without any problems, until now.

Yes, it is normal with a Thesis.

Best regards, Ivo

Translation Google translate and Nadjaji :-)
Thesis 2.4 Multijet 220HP chiptuned - 2008
marsray
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Re: Thesis strange electronic troubles

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Hello Pierre,

I read your message about EOL error for many years ago, now I have exactly the same problem (all the failures you described, exactly the same) with my 3.2 Thesis. Did you ever found out what caused this problem?

Greetings
Marcel
Pierre VALLADE
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Re: Thesis strange electronic troubles

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Marcel,

The problem on my car was due to the NIT (radio, GPS, telephone).

To solve this problem, I removed the NIT and sent it in Italy at Torino for repair. Cost was about 250/300 € excluding port and packaging for return. Still in my car now for several years.
Link to this office : http://www.tswnavigatoreauto.com/

I wrote (in french) the procedure to remove the NIT about 1/2 hour and quite easy : http://www.lanciathesis-clubdefrance.fr ... t-connect/

Let me know in cas of problem.

Pierre.
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